Something weird popped up on my London board that may be worth mentioning .... It is way out there though and I can't find any confirmation....yet.

"15 of the people on board were apparently on the advanced stage of releasing a generator that produced free electricity" ! I'd heard something about people working on something that avoided radar from more than one source... This electricity one is a bit out there though, whether thats true or not, I dont know, and it's one of those consipiricy factors that always pops up... However seeing as it's been mentioned I thought I'd mention it on here.... Only because the bloke that mentioned it is well respected and has been on line for over 12 years.

Do they though, apparently there have been 40 or more hijackings since 9/11 all overthrown by passengers with the only deaths 4 hijackers.

Two immediate things to come out of this, 100 pct foolproof security doors on the cockpit, and the black box system needs to be upgraded to Icloud or similar.

The pilots need to be able to get out of the cockpit (loo, etc.) and get food in (air hostie) - therefore the most secure door is pointless once its opened (it was always a dumb american idea anyway).

The solution that was suggested back after 9/11 was the option for control take over and remote piloting of the aircraft (droning) - but that has its own risks.

>>One particularly nasty thing to come out of this. In the wake of 9/11 lots of gung-ho americans were saying "hijack is impossible now, since we'd all rush the terrorists". Well the answer to that is now known by all potential terrorists: get to altitude; vent the cabin; wait 15 to 20 mins; no passenger problem ever again.<<

Which could be the reason for it reportedly climbing well above its normal altitude. Once the pax masks had deployed (assuming they were not made inoperative) they only have a few minutes' operation which allows a "normal" dive to breathable air.

It's possible that the people involved were not aware that at that altitude it's debatable whether even the crew masks would be of use for more than a short time: perhaps they lost control at that point. But it's all conjecture.

>>Pilot suicide makes no sense (aim at the ground immediately)<<

Unless a suicidal crewmember or passenger wanted the aircraft to be totally lost and beyond investigation, for insurance purposes?

I have the feeling that, barring a lucky find, the investigation of pax and crew will be the productive effort.

As far as pax is concerned, there are many more simple ways of getting an insurance payout (crash a car on the motorway is one).

If you are a pilot, those simple options are still open to you, as are a hell of a lot of 'mistakes' that would result in the loss of the airframe without suspicion.

No, the key to this is someone with skills wanted the aircraft 'off the radar' as quickly and quietly as possible. The other shoe that's yet to drop is 'why?'

I've just come up with this reasonably sensible snip:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ing-plane.html

To land and hide the plane you'd need total control of an airstrip large enough for it - and where you wouldn't be noticed by air defence radars on the way there.

Here is the map of the airstrips it could land at:


and here are the arc of the last known pings



In theory, if it landed, it would have to be on the intersection of the two.

Personally I'm just not seeing it.

A concise article on the situation from the Independent:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...h-9194501.html

One thing we can, of course, eliminate is that it was an Islamist plot. They are, after all, the religion of peace.

One of the interesting things is apparently they say ACARS was disabled before the final voice check-in with ATC. If true then that implies the pilot or co-pilot WERE the people who carried out the plot. It's difficult to disable ACARS without it being obvious - so that final voice check-in was after the plan was well in progress.

The latest theory is that the Captain is a strong suspect due to his political leanings.

A few hours before the flight, the Captain went to the trial of the former Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim. Anwar - an Opposition leader - had spent a few years in jail on a charge of sodomy (which he has always denied) and then acquitted in 2012. However, on March 07 this year the acquittal was overturned and he was sent back to prison for another five years - to effectively end his political career.

One theory is that the Captain of the fated MH370 flight was so upset that he may have sabotaged the plane:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sodomite.html

I was living in Singapore in the 1990's and clearly recall the original trial of Anwar Ibrahim (when Mohammed Mathahir was the PM) and how it all seemed to be purely politically motivated. I've always felt so sorry for how he's suffered:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/235255.stm

http://anwaribrahimblog.com/

You were talking about motive, Garry.

If the pilot wants to stage a demonstration I suspect his motive is to show the world he can mess around with a flight and show people. All this sim stuff in his home tells me he's a bit too 'keen' for a pilot. He might well have worked himself up.

The best thing about all of this is that if I was a relative I would gain some hope that my relative onboard was an unwitting pawn and might still be alive. Maybe.

He might be mentioning it because he think it sounds fun. His standing on the board makes no odds!

Not necessarily. With the cockpit already accessed, either the Capt or FO could have been forced to "roger that" with ATC. One of them may have already been "removed from their duties" by then.

This news article indicates information considered credible from a convicted terrorist. It mentions shoe bomb to access cockpit door, and a plot masterminded by the same person behind the 11/9 attacks in 2001.

Problem with that is there are lots of ways a pilot can report a hijacking, if they are still alive and in the pilot seat. And if you are a hijacker, why wait till handover to go off track?

I've a new scenario which I think makes some sense. If you assume either the pilot or copilot are responsible, and want to kill themselves/everyone such that they never find the plane - you can make some predictions as to how the play it out.

They obviously flew a route that got them out of radar coverage as soon as possible, threading through radar coverage and using known waypoints to navigate.

So what if the individual programmed a series of waypoints into the autopilot, including altitude, that both did this AND killed EVERYONE on the plane via oxygen starvation (not a bad way to go). They press the button and 30 mins later it's a Marie Celeste flight on it's way to a grave in the middle of nowhere.

If that's the case, you need a nice easy 'final' waypoint for the track, somewhere you know the aircraft will run out of fuel before. Well if you are at the top of the Indian Ocean there are two obvious choices - South Africa, or Western Australia. Maybe the autopilot didn't have african waypoints loaded, but Malaysia Airlines fly to Perth ...

I think I'd be looking at the part of that southern 'ping' arc that's on a direct route from a waypoint the other side of the Andaman Islands.