View Poll Results: is 'mateship' in Australia special or unique?
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Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
Jun 2nd 2011, 9:51 pm
#92
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Jun 2nd 2011, 10:00 pm
#93
saoirse
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
It's just the usual vitriolic and threatening ones from the mods and the filthy, depraved and nauseating offers from the other posters.
Jun 2nd 2011, 10:02 pm
#94
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Jun 2nd 2011, 10:15 pm
#96
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Jun 2nd 2011, 10:35 pm
#97
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Jun 2nd 2011, 11:44 pm
#100
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
Note to self, add Al to vitriol list.....
Jun 3rd 2011, 3:20 am
#101
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
Yeah I think its a balancing act, as a recruit at ATR Bassingborn (where they filmed Full Metal Jacket...oh the irony!) I was totally destroyed by the screws brutally every day it was pretty bad but promised myself that when I became an instructor I would be FIRM but also FAIR which some of them definitely were not. (Met one in Germany a few years later and smacked him out....poetic justice.....whoops there goes LSGC gong!).
Its almost come full circle now with Brit Army they got rid of the Red Card System at the ATRs Catterick etc as we had New bods turning from depot to battalion going on ops and cracking up. (MOD are partially going back to Crown immuinity...will see though)
Agree with you with Aus Army from what I've seen must be frustrating for the diggers even more so as it seems very civilianised and a little touchy feely. I think its reflected with their ops in the Ghan its a limited deployment (Dont get me wrong they are doing great job in Oruzgan and Oz Diggers are a pleasure to work with) but as I experienced with them in Iraq Howard, Rudd and Gillard have always seemed unwilling to let them take thier gloves off and get at 'em properly.
Realise they have had the casualties (Very sad the latest lad shot by ANA soldier) but Oruzgan is NOT Helmand. Again taking nothing away from the diggers the 'mateship', tactics etc is fantastic, squaddies and diggers always gel quite well together, but its always political with the way ADF is deployed. Steven Smith and the rest of them just DONT seem to realise how to handle or manage that very bastion of Australian culture that includes mateship, battlers, etc the ADF.
Its almost come full circle now with Brit Army they got rid of the Red Card System at the ATRs Catterick etc as we had New bods turning from depot to battalion going on ops and cracking up. (MOD are partially going back to Crown immuinity...will see though)
Agree with you with Aus Army from what I've seen must be frustrating for the diggers even more so as it seems very civilianised and a little touchy feely. I think its reflected with their ops in the Ghan its a limited deployment (Dont get me wrong they are doing great job in Oruzgan and Oz Diggers are a pleasure to work with) but as I experienced with them in Iraq Howard, Rudd and Gillard have always seemed unwilling to let them take thier gloves off and get at 'em properly.
Realise they have had the casualties (Very sad the latest lad shot by ANA soldier) but Oruzgan is NOT Helmand. Again taking nothing away from the diggers the 'mateship', tactics etc is fantastic, squaddies and diggers always gel quite well together, but its always political with the way ADF is deployed. Steven Smith and the rest of them just DONT seem to realise how to handle or manage that very bastion of Australian culture that includes mateship, battlers, etc the ADF.
My view is that anyone who feels hard done by and somehow thinks that Australians are trying to claim it as their only personal property has missed the point. They're choosing to focus on their own history that is all. The old country did it with the London Blitz.
Look on any sports team, military sub-unit, tightly knit group in Australia (and overseas, naturally) and you will find a particular brand of mates and mateship. It's 'comradeship' and Australians talk about it because their settler country was forged and formed through 'tough' conditions and at war via the outback legends and ANZAC tradition....and it's part of blue-collar worker culture.
That's all there is to it.
Whether or not a mate might stab you in the back is everyone's to look out for...and if that bloke brushes past you to get on the tram in Collins Street ahead of you..well - that's life.
Jun 3rd 2011, 11:08 am
#102
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
you're in Australia so they speak Australian slang
The meaning behind the words used is no different to what we use in the UK. Some of it is banter and meant to be taken lightheartedly and not to heart. if I call someone mate it doesn't mean I loves yous
and ive got all my own teeth
sorry about the southern cross on me neck though
The meaning behind the words used is no different to what we use in the UK. Some of it is banter and meant to be taken lightheartedly and not to heart. if I call someone mate it doesn't mean I loves yous
and ive got all my own teeth
sorry about the southern cross on me neck though
Jun 3rd 2011, 12:16 pm
#103
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
I hang around hoping for one on bestiality. That hasn’t been done has it?
Jun 3rd 2011, 12:34 pm
#104
Crazy Cat Lady
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
I seem to remember something about horses. Can we not though, please?
Jun 3rd 2011, 12:39 pm
#105
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Re: Mateship. Load of Bollocks?
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