Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
#227
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
I'm glad it doesn't bother you.
Keel
#230
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Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
Well, if a very old book tells you that, then let the people who follow that very old book stick to their version of marriage.
State-sanctioned marriages should be defined by the Government, which is in turn defined by the people, and not by some old book.
#231
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
For the record, although I'm not a Church goer, I like to think of myself as Christian - I certainly endeavour to uphold Christian values which boil down to 'do unto others as you would have others do unto you'.
Ahhh Christianity... its certainly handy to ignore that whole Old Testament bloody thirsty God when you want to
#232
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
Both of those towns, funnily enough, were founded & settled by Irish immigrants during the gold rush. The new settlements needed a lot of holes dug & there's non better than a Mick for digging a hole. Apparently all they did was tell them there were potatoes here, just a bit deeper than usual.
Of course they brought their own customs & traditions along with them. Like buggering small boys & animals for example.
Isn't history fascinating.
Of course they brought their own customs & traditions along with them. Like buggering small boys & animals for example.
Isn't history fascinating.
#233
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,130
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
Do you follow everything it says in the Bible?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
For the record, although I'm not a Church goer, I like to think of myself as Christian - I certainly endeavour to uphold Christian values which boil down to 'do unto others as you would have others do unto you'.
Ahhh Christianity... its certainly handy to ignore that whole Old Testament bloody thirsty God when you want to
http://youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw
For the record, although I'm not a Church goer, I like to think of myself as Christian - I certainly endeavour to uphold Christian values which boil down to 'do unto others as you would have others do unto you'.
Ahhh Christianity... its certainly handy to ignore that whole Old Testament bloody thirsty God when you want to
I also find it strange how Jesus is right there in the story as a we babe, with all the tiny details of first hand experience like what he was wearing, where he slept, what animals turned up for his birth, even what a local innkeeper said etc - then disappears for a few decades - information becomes a little sparse. Did he not do anything in particular for those years? Did the healing / miracle working only come later? Was he a late starter? As the Bible is God's word - did God not know where his son was? And don't even talk of the Old Testament - the one about the creation of the world, a world where T.Rex, and other groups, never existed. Almost as if it was written by men who didn't yet know about dinosaurs because they hadn't been discovered.
If you are a devout Christian, don't be offended, just be smug in the knowledge that you are right.
#234
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
I used to think like that - putting christian values on a pedestal. If you look at the behavior of Christians over the past 2000 years, from slaughtering the infidel, to turning a convenient blind eye to Hitler's little faux pas with the Semites - not really a good role model imo. For women it is even worse - I can't for the life of me understand how they can cite Christianity as a good model - the major female characters in that fictional work called the bible are either whores or virgins.
I also find it strange how Jesus is right there in the story as a we babe, with all the tiny details of first hand experience like what he was wearing, where he slept, what animals turned up for his birth, even what a local innkeeper said etc - then disappears for a few decades - information becomes a little sparse. Did he not do anything in particular for those years? Did the healing / miracle working only come later? Was he a late starter? As the Bible is God's word - did God not know where his son was? And don't even talk of the Old Testament - the one about the creation of the world, a world where T.Rex, and other groups, never existed. Almost as if it was written by men who didn't yet know about dinosaurs because they hadn't been discovered.
If you are a devout Christian, don't be offended, just be smug in the knowledge that you are right.
I also find it strange how Jesus is right there in the story as a we babe, with all the tiny details of first hand experience like what he was wearing, where he slept, what animals turned up for his birth, even what a local innkeeper said etc - then disappears for a few decades - information becomes a little sparse. Did he not do anything in particular for those years? Did the healing / miracle working only come later? Was he a late starter? As the Bible is God's word - did God not know where his son was? And don't even talk of the Old Testament - the one about the creation of the world, a world where T.Rex, and other groups, never existed. Almost as if it was written by men who didn't yet know about dinosaurs because they hadn't been discovered.
If you are a devout Christian, don't be offended, just be smug in the knowledge that you are right.
#237
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
I used to think like that - putting christian values on a pedestal. If you look at the behavior of Christians over the past 2000 years, from slaughtering the infidel, to turning a convenient blind eye to Hitler's little faux pas with the Semites - not really a good role model imo. For women it is even worse - I can't for the life of me understand how they can cite Christianity as a good model - the major female characters in that fictional work called the bible are either whores or virgins.
People like to cite how much wrong has been done in the name of religion - I'm sure they don't really think atrocities wouldn't have been committed if religion wasn't around. Unfortunately, religion is a handy peg for bloodthirsty psychopaths to hang their hat on. If it wasn't that, it would be something else.
But anyway, this is getting off topic quite a lot.
#238
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,130
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
The important bit in my life is the quoted bit at the top. For me, that's the essence of Christianity (and obviously its not unique to Christianity or even to religion) - the rest is mistranslation, misdirection and window dressing.
People like to cite how much wrong has been done in the name of religion - I'm sure they don't really think atrocities wouldn't have been committed if religion wasn't around. Unfortunately, religion is a handy peg for bloodthirsty psychopaths to hang their hat on. If it wasn't that, it would be something else.
But anyway, this is getting off topic quite a lot.
People like to cite how much wrong has been done in the name of religion - I'm sure they don't really think atrocities wouldn't have been committed if religion wasn't around. Unfortunately, religion is a handy peg for bloodthirsty psychopaths to hang their hat on. If it wasn't that, it would be something else.
But anyway, this is getting off topic quite a lot.
Not sure about your reasoning that if religion hadn't caused atrocities, something else would have caused them anyway. The reason that people like to cite the wrongs done in the name of religion is that it is true, always has been, always will be, for ever and ever, amen.
There goes my chance of having 7 virgins, better redeem myself by killing a few innocent children. Good stuff, religion.
#239
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
The Old Testament is like Terminator - Arnie hates us and wants to kill us because we messed up his utopian future control network.
The New Testament, however is like Terminator 2 - Arnie loves us and wants to protect us from ourselves and the evils of the future.
I'm not sure where Terminator 3 fits in - maybe that's something to do with scientology. And as for Christian Bale...
S
#240
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,130
Re: Legal Same-Sex Marriage coming to Australia?
The Old Testament is like Terminator - Arnie hates us and wants to kill us because we messed up his utopian future control network.
The New Testament, however is like Terminator 2 - Arnie loves us and wants to protect us from ourselves and the evils of the future.
I'm not sure where Terminator 3 fits in - maybe that's something to do with scientology. And as for Christian Bale...
S
The New Testament, however is like Terminator 2 - Arnie loves us and wants to protect us from ourselves and the evils of the future.
I'm not sure where Terminator 3 fits in - maybe that's something to do with scientology. And as for Christian Bale...
S