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Old May 28th 2010 | 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly
Tut tut do you read the daily mail by any chance,yer sooooo far away from how republicans terrorists and their supporters think/behave,we need to sit down have a chat over a beer or two
So really believe that if that bomb had killed hundreds then the IRA would have continued on as before? That monies would have continued to flow from the US? That they would have maintained the same level of support within the community?
 
Old May 28th 2010 | 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by CelticRover
From what I could discern, it took the World Trade Center bombings to alert the IRA to the fact that the game was up, unless they wanted to be treated as a terrorist organisation along with the likes of Al queda and company.
They seemed pretty saavy to the mood of the times.

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Exactly. A huge death toll in Manchester would have ended any support from the US.
 
Old May 28th 2010 | 2:12 pm
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So really believe that if that bomb had killed hundreds then the IRA would have continued on as before? That monies would have continued to flow from the US? That they would have maintained the same level of support within the community?
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Old May 28th 2010 | 2:15 pm
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Your point?
That bomb was ruthlessly placed with the sole goal of killing and badly injuring as many people as possible, unlike other bombings at early hours of the morning when no one was around. Even though this wasn't the main arm of IRA that carried it out the entire cause still to this day has support. Therefore your point about them not receiving support if they had killed hundreds of people is void.
 
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So really believe that if that bomb had killed hundreds then the IRA would have continued on as before? That monies would have continued to flow from the US? That they would have maintained the same level of support within the community?
They would have dealt themselves a bad blow and yes their support would have been hit hard,but they would have gone on regardless as some idiots are doing today,(thankfully not very effectively).You would be utterly amazed as to how these people think,trust me i lived among them for many years.
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
That bomb was ruthlessly placed with the sole goal of killing and badly injuring as many people as possible, unlike other bombings at early hours of the morning when no one was around. Even though this wasn't the main arm of IRA that carried it out the entire cause still to this day has support. Therefore your point about them not receiving support if they had killed hundreds of people is void.
The Omagh bomb, probably more than any other single incident, did more to bring the troubles in Ulster to an end than anything else. It disgusted people and almost instantly brought a ceasefire from the IRA.

As for this comment "unlike other bombings at early hours of the morning when no one was around" You are joking, surely? The idea that bombs were only going off in the middle of the night, so that people were not injured, is laughable.
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
The Omagh bomb, probably more than any other single incident, did more to bring the troubles in Ulster to an end than anything else. It disgusted people and almost instantly brought a ceasefire from the IRA.

As for this comment "unlike other bombings at early hours of the morning when no one was around" You are joking, surely? The idea that bombs were only going off in the middle of the night, so that people were not injured, is laughable.
Laughable,careful now
 
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The idea that bombs were only going off in the middle of the night, so that people were not injured, is laughable.
So what would you say is the point of the majority of IRA bombings being preceeded by warning telephone calls to authorities before the events? How many people would have died in Manchester had there not been a warning call?
 
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Originally Posted by Bernie Barfly
They would have dealt themselves a bad blow and yes their support would have been hit hard,but they would have gone on regardless as some idiots are doing today,(thankfully not very effectively).You would be utterly amazed as to how these people think,trust me i lived among them for many years.
...and I fully agree with you. There is and always will be, a hardcore of nutters who do it because they enjoy it. My point is more that the IRA, as a major force, would have been mortally wounded by the death of hundreds of people in a single incident.

It would have been a death knell for the current round of 'Troubles' and it would have, IMO, been the end of an coherent Republican movement for generations.
 
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...and I fully agree with you. There is and always will be, a hardcore of nutters who do it because they enjoy it. My point is more that the IRA, as a major force, would have been mortally wounded by the death of hundreds of people in a single incident.

It would have been a death knell for the current round of 'Troubles' and it would have, IMO, been the end of an coherent Republican movement for generations.
Mortal blow mmm not sure mate,and cohesion is something the republican movement have never had anyway.
 
Old May 28th 2010 | 2:32 pm
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...and I fully agree with you. There is and always will be, a hardcore of nutters who do it because they enjoy it. My point is more that the IRA, as a major force, would have been mortally wounded by the death of hundreds of people in a single incident.

It would have been a death knell for the current round of 'Troubles' and it would have, IMO, been the end of an coherent Republican movement for generations.
So, under that theory, how do you explain their current existence and support after Omagh?
 
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
So what would you say is the point of the majority of IRA bombings being preceeded by warning telephone calls to authorities before the events? How many people would have died in Manchester had there not been a warning call?
**** me I had realised what a caring, sharing, organization PIRA was. Thanks for pointing out that they really didn't set out to kill people. Just to break the odd window or so.
 
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**** me I had realised what a caring, sharing, organization PIRA was. Thanks for pointing out that they really didn't set out to kill people. Just to break the odd window or so.
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Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders
So, under that theory, how do you explain their current existence and support after Omagh?
Unfortunately yer right,they(republican terrorists) still command a significant 'silent' support in Ireland as a whole.
 


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