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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by 4500 Times
(Post 4281134)
Complete knobhead mate.........
People are entitled to their opinion, and as regards "Losers" well i'd sooner be a loser living in Paradise, and my kids excelling at everything they do than to live in a once great place, who's life blood is being sucked from it by scum, which by the way is being done by the people you lot voted into power..... I think theres a note of jealousy in your posts because maybe you hav'nt the balls to do what we and so many others have done, and BETTERED OURSELVES....... Can't wait for your response !!!!!!!!:D |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by 4500 Times
(Post 4281134)
Complete knobhead mate.........
I think theres a note of jealousy in your posts because maybe you hav'nt the balls to do what we and so many others have done, and BETTERED OURSELVES....... Can't wait for your response !!!!!!!!:D However, the 'England used to be a lot better before the immigrants' attitude, which a lot of Brits are moving from the UK to Oz for is not doing Oz any favours. Those prejudices will only manifest themselves in other ways once over here. Same thread, different title, different posters, same confused attitude. Do Australia a favour...please listen to those that have lived in both countries and move here for the RIGHT REASONS only! |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by TheAshleys
(Post 4281061)
:rolleyes: Go back to the UK now and see if it is drivel. IT IS NOT. I was there are recently as 2 months ago, go to East London, and if you can spot a true Englishman, get yourself a lottery ticket, you are one lucky bstard.
Aus has it's problems, all countries do, but my local news reports talk about a person refusing to pay their cab fare, in London it was murders ! |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by 4500 Times
(Post 4281134)
Complete knobhead mate.........
People are entitled to their opinion, and as regards "Losers" well i'd sooner be a loser living in Paradise, and my kids excelling at everything they do than to live in a once great place, who's life blood is being sucked from it by scum, which by the way is being done by the people you lot voted into power..... I think theres a note of jealousy in your posts because maybe you hav'nt the balls to do what we and so many others have done, and BETTERED OURSELVES....... Can't wait for your response !!!!!!!!:D |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by arkon
(Post 4281210)
If you think coming here will better yourself then all I can say is you must be right at that bottom rung of life.
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by Grayling
(Post 4280638)
I live in the UK
...and where I am is nothing like that. If a few losers can't hack it in the Uk they should maybe look at themselves instead of blaming the country:rolleyes: I left for one main reason - I just can't stand the English weather (although there is nowhere better to be in the world than Lathkill Dale on a perfect summer's day). This might be fickle for some but it is important to us. But we paid a price - my salary is significantly lower here as a teacher than it would be in the UK. I stepped off the career ladder. We still have the house but we haven't upgraded. When I went back to the UK in 2004 after 5 years away i just could not believe the change for the better. People seemed to have more money. (I got good tax credits!) Massive improvement on the environment - clean beaches, clean rivers. Supermarkets were so cheap that grocery bills were very low. Second hand car prices were low. Schools - although still no utopia - seemed to have turned the corner with teachers getting better pay and power being removed from obstructive parents. I had free health care, my kids had free prescriptions. The media was fantastic, the newspaper choice amazing. I seem to be in the minority who really rates Tony Blair and the government. Sure there have been problems but have people forgotten the sleaze and lack of progress which characterised Major's government? And for all Thatcher's progress there was a lot of heartache... I lived in an OK village when we went back - now I'm sure you could post experiences of Tower Hamlets or Handsworth or wherever - but what about the inner suburbs of Sydney? What about the Cronulla riots last year? What about some of the less decent neighbourhoods of Perth, Melbourne etc? Right back at ya!! Focus on the weather, the opportunities that the weather allows in Australia and as someone else said - the adventure. If you think that Australia has no evils and the the UK is a crock then I'm sure you will be disappointed. |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by Nick11
(Post 4280506)
Personally, the motivation for us moving is the kids.What sort of life can they expect.My 10 year old can't leave the house,as I don't trust what's out there.Guns on the street and drive by shootings are the norm in Nottingham! There's no way they'll ever afford a house(probably living with us for the rest of their lives)If they'll clever enough to go to uni, they'll be in debt for the rest of their lives.And for the rest of their lives, they'll be paying into a system, where they'll be bottom of the pile. Rant over!
I was burgled approximately four times. They took everything. Jackets, tapes, etc. The last time I was burgled I was in bed and heard the thieves coming up the stairs. Scary. I was looking around my bedroom for something to use - but I only had a small cd player to protect myself with. Luckily when I shouted they ran off. Even though this shit got me down I always thought Nottingham was a great place to live. Maybe living in Nottingham prepared me for the supposedly crime ridden South Africa, which I thought was GREAT! Never robbed, no problems, no road rage etc etc in over 2 years I lived there. |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
(Post 4281264)
I don't understand why people knock the UK either and I can't help feeling that they have seen little of the world.
I left for one main reason - I just can't stand the English weather (although there is nowhere better to be in the world than Lathkill Dale on a perfect summer's day). This might be fickle for some but it is important to us. But we paid a price - my salary is significantly lower here as a teacher than it would be in the UK. I stepped off the career ladder. We still have the house but we haven't upgraded. When I went back to the UK in 2004 after 5 years away i just could not believe the change for the better. People seemed to have more money. (I got good tax credits!) Massive improvement on the environment - clean beaches, clean rivers. Supermarkets were so cheap that grocery bills were very low. Second hand car prices were low. Schools - although still no utopia - seemed to have turned the corner with teachers getting better pay and power being removed from obstructive parents. I had free health care, my kids had free prescriptions. The media was fantastic, the newspaper choice amazing. I seem to be in the minority who really rates Tony Blair and the government. Sure there have been problems but have people forgotten the sleaze and lack of progress which characterised Major's government? And for all Thatcher's progress there was a lot of heartache... I lived in an OK village when we went back - now I'm sure you could post experiences of Tower Hamlets or Handsworth or wherever - but what about the inner suburbs of Sydney? What about the Cronulla riots last year? What about some of the less decent neighbourhoods of Perth, Melbourne etc? Right back at ya!! Focus on the weather, the opportunities that the weather allows in Australia and as someone else said - the adventure. If you think that Australia has no evils and the the UK is a crock then I'm sure you will be disappointed. Blair may have seen better days, but give me him over Thatcher any day! |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
(Post 4281264)
I don't understand why people knock the UK either and I can't help feeling that they have seen little of the world.
I left for one main reason - I just can't stand the English weather (although there is nowhere better to be in the world than Lathkill Dale on a perfect summer's day). This might be fickle for some but it is important to us. But we paid a price - my salary is significantly lower here as a teacher than it would be in the UK. I stepped off the career ladder. We still have the house but we haven't upgraded. When I went back to the UK in 2004 after 5 years away i just could not believe the change for the better. People seemed to have more money. (I got good tax credits!) Massive improvement on the environment - clean beaches, clean rivers. Supermarkets were so cheap that grocery bills were very low. Second hand car prices were low. Schools - although still no utopia - seemed to have turned the corner with teachers getting better pay and power being removed from obstructive parents. I had free health care, my kids had free prescriptions. The media was fantastic, the newspaper choice amazing. I seem to be in the minority who really rates Tony Blair and the government. Sure there have been problems but have people forgotten the sleaze and lack of progress which characterised Major's government? And for all Thatcher's progress there was a lot of heartache... I lived in an OK village when we went back - now I'm sure you could post experiences of Tower Hamlets or Handsworth or wherever - but what about the inner suburbs of Sydney? What about the Cronulla riots last year? What about some of the less decent neighbourhoods of Perth, Melbourne etc? Right back at ya!! Focus on the weather, the opportunities that the weather allows in Australia and as someone else said - the adventure. If you think that Australia has no evils and the the UK is a crock then I'm sure you will be disappointed. Maybe they're ungrateful bastards, who look no further than what affects them on a daily basis. Far far worse places to live than either UK or Aus, I appreciate what I have and the opportunities that life has and will continue to offer me and my family. |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
I used to live in East London, never had a problem-not once. Australia is not some paradise with no problems-it has them.
It's different from being on holiday when you have to get up and go to work. The UK is cold and wet, but I'm a refrigeration and air con contractor and on the other hand 65 degrees C in a roof has it's drawbacks, so it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. We made the right choice but for the right reasons, not to escape or think we would be on holiday for the rest of our lives. Housing is getting just as expensive as the UK, cost of living isn't that different, but we are happier as a family. BUT we had a rock solid marriage and family life which is important, because moving across the world requires it. As has been said do it or the right reasons, not just as a quick fix to a long term problem, because you will be disappointed. Good Luck in whatever you all decide. |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
I think a lot of people ( myself included ) deliberately look for - and find - reasons to leave the UK. Whether it be hoodies, political correctness, the price of beef or whatever, once you've made your mind up to leave it is somehow reassuring to find a new 'reason' to get out of the UK. It helps to justify your decision, I suppose.
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by elmtree
(Post 4281318)
I think a lot of people ( myself included ) deliberately look for - and find - reasons to leave the UK. Whether it be hoodies, political correctness, the price of beef or whatever, once you've made your mind up to leave it is somehow reassuring to find a new 'reason' to get out of the UK. It helps to justify your decision, I suppose.
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Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by Australia_bound?
(Post 4281338)
Well I'd rather look for reasons for wanting go to Aus than why I need to leave UK. But each to their own.
I agree. We have many more reasons for wanting to go to Aus than we do for wanting to leave the UK. |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
I love these types of thread ;)
I see no problem coming away from the UK because you have had enough of it, I have had this attitude and it has done me now harm at all. We've been on the Sunshine Coast for about a year now, and it is the "nuts", best thing we ever done was to come here. Our main reason for leaving, got fedup with the mass immigration EU nationals into London when another country joined the EU zone. Final straw, having the teacher in my daughers class, having to get one of the Polish children to translate for her to some of the new arrivals .:eek: I won't go into the shootings around my old manor, because they just became a weekly occurence and never even made the front page of the local rag anymore. It seemed that if you have a morgage in London, and are a middle income earner, then you were fair game to pay every bloody tax that the local, Ken and Blair wanted to give you. At the time of leaving, congestion zone was going to move out to Shepherds Bush and up to £8, and the Tube fairs had gone up about 4%, with the ending of the Family ticket on them. Oh, I could go on about the cost of a parking permit to park outside your house as well, but it just pi##es me off to much, even after being away for a year or so. I accept that a few on this thread do not live in the inner cites, and to be honest and don't blame you one minute. That said, you have no idea how bloody hard it is to make ends meet in these types of areas, and seeing more flats going up by the day,with no inferstruct to match the increase in the local population. No new dentist, doctors,hospitals etc, just flats and people who do not add to the community, but just create there own. But still the council tax goes up ! Anyway, that's enough of my ranting, "horse's for courses" I suppose. You do get crime here, but you at least get a frendly "G'day" when you shop and a "morning" from complete strangers, just walking down the road. Maybe there muggers, if so, then at least they are polite ones :D The teenagers, are mostly, just teenagers, not "wanna be hoods". I even had a group of teenagers on the pi$$, walk pass me and my family at night, on the back roads of Mooloolaba and say "alright mate" while I'm still working out who I might have to hit first !! Not what I was expecting, a group of teenagers on the pi$$ that were dam nice :) Cost of leaving, similar, but food, esspecally meat is fresher and more of for the money. Schools, well, I can only speak from a personal point of view, but the system in London, does not even get close to here. Maybe it is because they don't keep changing the system every time a new "poll" is made on how crap the schools are doing ? My daugter now plays on the street with the local kids, something I would never of allowed in London, not on my council estate anyway ! As for Thacher, at least you knew where you stood with her, not like Blair, one minute he is doing this, then not, won't budge on this , then chucks the towel in and gives up - a trator and worthing of a good slap. So mr Blair, if you happen to read this, why don't you come on holiday to the Sunshine Coast, where there will be a good London welcome waiting for you :D Anyway, good luck to you, if you like Milton Keynes then you will love this place, not as many roundabouts for a start ;) |
Re: I cannot believe Oz is as bad as this.
Originally Posted by jc_hoops
(Post 4281478)
I love these types of thread ;)
I see no problem coming away from the UK because you have had enough of it, I have had this attitude and it has done me now harm at all. We've been on the Sunshine Coast for about a year now, and it is the "nuts", best thing we ever done was to come here. Our main reason for leaving, got fedup with the mass immigration EU nationals into London when another country joined the EU zone. Final straw, having the teacher in my daughers class, having to get one of the Polish children to translate for her to some of the new arrivals .:eek: I won't go into the shootings around my old manor, because they just became a weekly occurence and never even made the front page of the local rag anymore. It seemed that if you have a morgage in London, and are a middle income earner, then you were fair game to pay every bloody tax that the local, Ken and Blair wanted to give you. At the time of leaving, congestion zone was going to move out to Shepherds Bush and up to £8, and the Tube fairs had gone up about 4%, with the ending of the Family ticket on them. Oh, I could go on about the cost of a parking permit to park outside your house as well, but it just pi##es me off to much, even after being away for a year or so. I accept that a few on this thread do not live in the inner cites, and to be honest and don't blame you one minute. That said, you have no idea how bloody hard it is to make ends meet in these types of areas, and seeing more flats going up by the day,with no inferstruct to match the increase in the local population. No new dentist, doctors,hospitals etc, just flats and people who do not add to the community, but just create there own. But still the council tax goes up ! Anyway, that's enough of my ranting, "horse's for courses" I suppose. You do get crime here, but you at least get a frendly "G'day" when you shop and a "morning" from complete strangers, just walking down the road. Maybe there muggers, if so, then at least they are polite ones :D The teenagers, are mostly, just teenagers, not "wanna be hoods". I even had a group of teenagers on the pi$$, walk pass me and my family at night, on the back roads of Mooloolaba and say "alright mate" while I'm still working out who I might have to hit first !! Not what I was expecting, a group of teenagers on the pi$$ that were dam nice :) Cost of leaving, similar, but food, esspecally meat is fresher and more of for the money. Schools, well, I can only speak from a personal point of view, but the system in London, does not even get close to here. Maybe it is because they don't keep changing the system every time a new "poll" is made on how crap the schools are doing ? My daugter now plays on the street with the local kids, something I would never of allowed in London, not on my council estate anyway ! As for Thacher, at least you knew where you stood with her, not like Blair, one minute he is doing this, then not, won't budge on this , then chucks the towel in and gives up - a trator and worthing of a good slap. So mr Blair, if you happen to read this, why don't you come on holiday to the Sunshine Coast, where there will be a good London welcome waiting for you :D Anyway, good luck to you, if you like Milton Keynes then you will love this place, not as many roundabouts for a start ;) Don't you think a lot of your problems could have been solved by a move to Devon? |
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