Beoz

What's the worse that can happen from a couple of pricks? Death? Probably better than being stuck on a hill in Qld for your remaining days.

I would much prefer a drug which teaches my body to fight an invader than a chemical to treat an invader. Each to their own. Now where is my tin foil hat.

spouse of scouse

Then I can only wish you good luck, and hope that neither you nor anyone else dies or is damaged as a consequence of you standing on that hill.

moneypenny20

26 year old daughter has finally got an appointment booked for her first.

old.sparkles

What gene therapy? Vaccines are not gene therapy, even mRNA ones.

I assume you've had vaccinations / inoculations before

old.sparkles

Young spark has his first jab tomorrow

moneypenny20

Good for him. She's annoyed it's taken this long to open it up to her age group but better late than never.

Pollyana

Only on threads you aren't in.

Anyhow, when you know you are needed on the other side of the world and you can't effing get there, not much option but to whinge. If you don't like it, put me on ignore, I'm sure you won't be the first.

Pollyana

Same here, I'm not expecting to be able to do any of those again, but it didn't stop me getting vaccinated

moneypenny20

I'm not sure why you or Vim wouldn't. There are enough football matches happening with fans filling the stands, small gigs happening, why wouldn't there be cricket or larger gigs? Obviously if the events require proof of vaccine Vim won't be there but frankly I think that's highly unlikely.

ozzieeagle

Pretty sure freedom will happen sooner than later. As soon as Sydney opens up, Melbourne will definitely follow, even if that means turning on beloved Dan. Both cities need strong international contact....Once those two cities open up internationally, then the rest of Australia will come along kicking and screaming.... Save for WA.... The powers that be will potentially entrench themselves even more and see it as even more reason to secede.

‘We can't just be held back': Push for NSW vaccine passports (msn.com)

November will be crunch time for Aus.... Sydney will open in October.

Beoz

Sydney is already open. No one is listening anymore. Everyone is over it.

It's pretty much like this here. Don't want Covid, stay indoors, don't want to be hospitalised, get jabbed, can't be bothered with either idea, tough luck. There is growing intolerance from the areas where the outbreak started who have more or less stuck to the rules and have very few or zero new cases, against those areas where it has exploded because they haven't followed the rules.

Pretty soon the majority will be double jabbed and will have zero sympathy for those who aren't.

Pollyana

The football I want to watch is real football in the UK, not Aussie rugby, and so I can't get there. The Ashes is in doubt because of the COVID restrictions. And the bands I would like to see aren't touring in Aus, again because of COVID

brits1

With some of the recent football signings here in England I think it's going to be a cracking season and here's hoping you can watch it pretty soon

Lion in Winter

From the immensely respected Sloan Kettering Institute:

"Traditional vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines, like the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, teach cells how to make a protein that triggers an immune response if someone gets infected. When the vaccine is injected into the upper arm, the mRNA enters cells near the site of the injection and tells the cells to start making the same protein that is found in the COVID-19 virus. The immune system recognizes this protein and begins producing antibodies that can fight the virus if the vaccinated person is later infected.None of the vaccines interact with or alter your DNA in any way, and therefore cannot cause cancer. MRNA is not the same as DNA and cannot be combined with DNA to change your genetic code. The mRNA is fragile, so after it delivers the instructions to your cells, it breaks down and disappears from the body (in about 72 hours). The mRNA never even goes into the nucleus of the cell — the part that contains your DNA."

The article mentions cancer because cancer treatment is what Sloan Kettering is devoted to. I'm using it because their explanation of what mRNA vaccine is and isn't is nice and clear and short. You don't need to be afraid. The vaccines have saved millions of lives already, and will save millions more, just like every other vaccine that you and I have had - some of them people that you and I love and care about.

https://www.mskcc.org/coronavirus/wh...-vaccines-work

DeadVim

Fair enough, your choice, etc.

But … I’m not signing up to this experimental gene therapy.

And am expecting to be marginalised for my views for the foreseeable future.