Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

Kev strikes me as just another middle-class bloke.

I can't help but get the impression but most of the people who make an institution out of 'Australia was not good enough for me' tend to be the lower-middle class/run of the mill middle class people who hide behind their job descriptions/degrees/appearances/choices they make in supermarkets (and I respect academia as a profession).
Doesn't make them particularly interesting in my books, nor wrong.

Give me a true working class bloke, or a man of means, even a man like Slappy any day. Someone once said - the only roles in life worth fulfilling are womenhood and soldiering - everything else is temporary...food for thought - don't necessarily agree with it.



There are plenty of people who find that the Armed Forces allows them to be their own men too - and it encourages it in some places (in some units more than others infact).

Infact, I find people in the workplace, even at the semi-professional/professional level far more comformist than I found many professional soldiers to be. Still makes me chuckle on occasion! The most conformist are often the lower-middle classes.

Originally Posted by kevin747

Here goes dude! I grew up on a council scheme. OK I have a profession.-but that is not how I made most of my money.I did via property development and stocks,currency trading too.
You appear to be as presumptious as you are ill informed.Mr o tool and I have been exchanging pleasant posts.

I find smug professional types in the UK as odious as I do Godzoner Aussies and ex pats.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack

Common ground? Have to admit, I was sort of coming in late on your initial exchanges. I like it when people who initially disagree are nonetheless pleasant. Like to see more of it on BE where things can get heated very quickly.

You certainly didn't come across as a hunting shooting type.

I don't mind professional types anywhere - it's the monotonous half-baked ones I find tedious which I sometimes feel I can detect in returning expats hence my general comments.

Originally Posted by kevin747

Don't count me in as one of those. Cheers

Originally Posted by slapphead_otool

The EU has also asked Athens to cut one of two extra months of pay that public-sector workers now get over and above their normal 12-month salary -- a move the government is resisting.

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Blimey, almost better than being a teacher!

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Blimey, almost better than being a teacher!

Originally Posted by iolande

yeap being a teacher is so like cruisy - NOT

No lunch breaks, lots of unpaid overtime, having to do all that admin on top of your job as the government by degrees has piled that work on to teachers. Being on a term-only contract which means no pay for those long holidays that everyone thinks you are having - so you go do office temping in the holidays when pay rates are low because all the uni students are trying to get experience as well. Oh and those contracts guarantee you 10 hours of work a year, but you must give them 4 months notice of your intent to leave, meanwhile they are at liberty to change your hours with no notice. Average pay - about £11000 a year. Casual contracts mean no long service leave, sick pay at institution's discretion etc

It's great being a teacher.

Originally Posted by MartinLuther

Teaching is a doddle.

As for paper work. It's like coppers complaining that they have all this paperwork nowadays to stop them fitting people up.

Originally Posted by iolande

Lecturing is great - lots of work, but all in a subject area you care about. Well paid too.

Teaching is a doddle - its all the BS that comes with it that makes it a pain in the proverbial. Not well paid.