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Global warming is caused by humans
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Global warming is a natural process, contribution of human activity is substantial
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Global warming is a natural process, contribution of human activity is negligible
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Old Feb 16th 2010 | 5:54 pm
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Default Re: Global warming

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Maybe we can swap evidence.
Sure. What evidence would you like? We've already agreed that climate can change without the assistance of humans.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 5:55 pm
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Its put up or shut up time boys and girls….
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Burbage
And more evasion. Surely someone has some evidence?
Annoying isn't it.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Annoying isn't it.
Not really. It merely continues to prove that you have no evidence. The whole point of evidence is that it has to be evident.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Burbage
Not really. It merely continues to prove that you have no evidence. The whole point of evidence is that it has to be evident.
...and where is your evidence to the contrary?
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Burbage
Sure. What evidence would you like? We've already agreed that climate can change without the assistance of humans.
Basic Geology tells one that.

How does it prove that current climate changes are not caused by humans?
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Basic Geology tells one that.

How does it prove that current climate changes are not caused by humans?
It doesn't. But since all previous climate changes have been natural, there is no reason at all to suppose this one is not natural. Unless you can provide that reason.
 
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Originally Posted by Burbage
It doesn't. But since all previous climate changes have been natural, there is no reason at all to suppose this one is not natural. Unless you can provide that reason.
Ok, we could go round in circles for days like this.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:29 pm
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Slowly but surely, post the Copenhagen calamity, and the climategate scandals, the wheels slowly fall off the AGW movement….

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1225831337598


THREE large corporations are quitting the US Climate Action Partnership, a broad group of businesses and environmental organisations that has been instrumental in building support in Washington for capping US emissions of greenhouse gases.

Oil giants BP and ConocoPhillips, along with Caterpillar, heavy-equipment maker, have decided against renewing their membership in the organisation, according to a statement released by the group.

Red Cavaney, ConocoPhillips senior vice president for government affairs, said USCAP was focused on getting a climate-change bill passed, whereas Conoco is increasingly concerned with what the details of such a bill would be
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Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Ok, we could go round in circles for days like this.
So you're admitting you have no evidence?
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Burbage
Now that we can agree that climate changes occur naturally we have to prove that the current climate change is not natural.
but how can we do it without having a second earth to experiment on?
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Burbage
I am very glad to hear it. You will, of course, tell us what it is?
ooh I know - about 97% of climate scientists say that it is happening . . .
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Ok, we could go round in circles for days like this.
my dear lord . . . we have been going round in circles like this for days
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by iolande
ooh I know - about 97% of climate scientists say that it is happening . . .
That's not evidence, that's hearsay. Are their names published anywhere? It might be useful to email them see if they can provide some evidence.
 
Old Feb 16th 2010 | 7:01 pm
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Default Re: Global warming

Originally Posted by slapphead_otool
Slowly but surely, post the Copenhagen calamity, and the climategate scandals, the wheels slowly fall off the AGW movement….

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1225831337598


THREE large corporations are quitting the US Climate Action Partnership, a broad group of businesses and environmental organisations that has been instrumental in building support in Washington for capping US emissions of greenhouse gases.

Oil giants BP and ConocoPhillips, along with Caterpillar, heavy-equipment maker, have decided against renewing their membership in the organisation, according to a statement released by the group.

Red Cavaney, ConocoPhillips senior vice president for government affairs, said USCAP was focused on getting a climate-change bill passed, whereas Conoco is increasingly concerned with what the details of such a bill would be
.
please don't quote the Australian - they have a political affiliation in this debate and aren't entering it as impartial observers
 


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