View Poll Results: Which statement do you agree with
Global warming is caused by humans
27
19.01%
Global warming is a natural process, contribution of human activity is substantial
44
30.99%
Global warming is a natural process, contribution of human activity is negligible
65
45.77%
Global warming seems unlikely
6
4.23%
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Global warming
Feb 16th 2010 | 4:47 pm
#1126
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Re: Global warming
That's a misquote. Perhaps you should read the sticky on quoting.
However, in the interests of bonhomie:
You can also argue that there is a correlation between solar energy and global warming, which is the explanation for all previous global warmings.
Where does this say anthing about climate change? It specifically talks about global warming. Is there a method of warming up the earth that doesn't involve the sun?
However, in the interests of bonhomie:
You can also argue that there is a correlation between solar energy and global warming, which is the explanation for all previous global warmings.
Where does this say anthing about climate change? It specifically talks about global warming. Is there a method of warming up the earth that doesn't involve the sun?
Feb 16th 2010 | 4:52 pm
#1128
Lost in BE Cyberspace
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 9,400
Re: Global warming
The whole debate centres on what *happens* with the heat that is there, whether it comes from the sun (the vast majority) or any other source.
Limburg, in one translation of an interview from the German, seems to imply that the greenhouse effect doesn't exist at all. Now, if that's what he really means, he is totally wrong. If he's being misquoted or misinterpreted he's no different from what has happened with Jones et al - ie., words taken out of context.
Feb 16th 2010 | 4:55 pm
#1130
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Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,565
From: Sydney
Re: Global warming
No-one's arguing about heat sources!
The whole debate centres on what *happens* with the heat that is there, whether it comes from the sun (the vast majority) or any other source.
Limburg, in one translation of an interview from the German, seems to imply that the greenhouse effect doesn't exist at all. Now, if that's what he really means, he is totally wrong. If he's being misquoted or misinterpreted he's no different from what has happened with Jones et al - ie., words taken out of context.
The whole debate centres on what *happens* with the heat that is there, whether it comes from the sun (the vast majority) or any other source.
Limburg, in one translation of an interview from the German, seems to imply that the greenhouse effect doesn't exist at all. Now, if that's what he really means, he is totally wrong. If he's being misquoted or misinterpreted he's no different from what has happened with Jones et al - ie., words taken out of context.
What I was trying to do was achieve fair and open discussion on the subject, by moving back to basics and finding a point of common agreement, then moving forward from there.
At the moment we leap around (myself included) suddenly throwing new issues into the mix.
Feb 16th 2010 | 4:57 pm
#1131
Demi-God
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,812
From: Far North Queensland
Re: Global warming
Well, as far as I can tell LF is, but since (s)he never actually says anything it's a bit hard to tell.
If we assume that all previous warming of the planet was natural, there needs to be a strong argument that the current warming is not natural before we look for another cause. Is it not reasonable therefore to put the burden of proof on those who claim that it is unnatural?
If we assume that all previous warming of the planet was natural, there needs to be a strong argument that the current warming is not natural before we look for another cause. Is it not reasonable therefore to put the burden of proof on those who claim that it is unnatural?
Feb 16th 2010 | 5:00 pm
#1133
Demi-God
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,812
From: Far North Queensland
Re: Global warming
Feb 16th 2010 | 5:02 pm
#1135
Demi-God
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,812
From: Far North Queensland
Re: Global warming
What I was trying to do was achieve fair and open discussion on the subject, by moving back to basics and finding a point of common agreement, then moving forward from there.
At the moment we leap around (myself included) suddenly throwing new issues into the mix.
At the moment we leap around (myself included) suddenly throwing new issues into the mix.
Feb 16th 2010 | 5:26 pm
#1138
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Posts: 2,733
Re: Global warming
No I am not a priest, it is you that seems to like to comment about religion. I do agree none of the previous climate change (e.g. before the Pleistocene) on planet earth were caused by humans.
Feb 16th 2010 | 5:33 pm
#1140
Demi-God
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,812
From: Far North Queensland
Re: Global warming
So we agree that climate changes can be entirely natural?
