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Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 9:19 pm

DIVORCE.
 
Ok long story short,the wife left me and as much as i tried to sort things out,counselling etc all i got was verbal abuse,lies to my friends and family painting me as an abusive alcoholic,very very upsetting to them and total ****ing shit,no i've had an email sweet as ****ing sugar asking me to sign the divorce papers.I even got shit for signing papers to say i wanted nothing from her extensive property interests/shares etc because i used a justice of the peace and not a solicitor because i could not afford one,the judge threw it out cause he thought i was getting a bad deal,i didnt want shit !!

Perhaps im bitter but what happens if i dont sign the papers,im off to Ireland in a few weeks.I expect the usual flack from the wimmin on here but i am hurt.

ozzieeagle Jan 30th 2010 9:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297899)
Ok long story short,the wife left me and as much as i tried to sort things out,counselling etc all i got was verbal abuse,lies to my friends and family painting me as an abusive alcoholic,very very upsetting to them and total ****ing shit,no i've had an email sweet as ****ing sugar asking me to sign the divorce papers.I even got shit for signing papers to say i wanted nothing from her extensive property interests/shares etc because i used a justice of the peace and not a solicitor because i could not afford one,the judge threw it out cause he thought i was getting a bad deal,i didnt want shit !!

Perhaps im bitter but what happens if i dont sign the papers,im off to Ireland in a few weeks.I expect the usual flack from the wimmin on here but i am hurt.

First gut reaction, and normally they are the very best with me....

Get yourself an Advocat and forget it, remove yourself from the emotion and wait for the outcome.

Not sure if they exist, but if they do ..... defo do it... in 10 years you will be pleased you did, I reckon. Go in give them the details once and once only, with the instructions you dont want to hear anything till it's over.

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 9:38 pm

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Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8297903)
First gut reaction, and normally they are the very best with me....

Get yourself an Advocat and forget it, remove yourself from the emotion and wait for the outcome.

Not sure if they exist, but if they do ..... defo do it... in 10 years you will be pleased you did, I reckon. Go in give them the details once and once only, with the instructions you dont want to hear anything till it's over.

Nah Ozzie im not contesting the divorce,but im bitter and want her to do a bit of ****ing chasing for a change,can she just get on with it when im gone or what happens if i DONT sign the paper's ??

quoll Jan 30th 2010 9:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297936)
Nah Ozzie im not contesting the divorce,but im bitter and want her to do a bit of ****ing chasing for a change,can she just get on with it when im gone or what happens if i DONT sign the paper's ??

Then she will have to chase you, wont she? I am sure that many partners in divorce have done just that. Become invisible and nick off - not your worry then really. They certainly wont stop you leaving the country. Only problem I can see for you is if you fall in love in the next 3 weeks and want to marry someone else.

I know there are two sides to every divorce story but it doesnt sound like you are getting a fair deal from this one, even if you didnt want anything, but that is your decision alone.

Good luck Mr Invisible!

moneypenny20 Jan 30th 2010 9:50 pm

Re: DIVORCE.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297899)
Ok long story short,the wife left me and as much as i tried to sort things out,counselling etc all i got was verbal abuse,lies to my friends and family painting me as an abusive alcoholic,very very upsetting to them and total ****ing shit,no i've had an email sweet as ****ing sugar asking me to sign the divorce papers.I even got shit for signing papers to say i wanted nothing from her extensive property interests/shares etc because i used a justice of the peace and not a solicitor because i could not afford one,the judge threw it out cause he thought i was getting a bad deal,i didnt want shit !!

Perhaps im bitter but what happens if i dont sign the papers,im off to Ireland in a few weeks.I expect the usual flack from the wimmin on here but i am hurt.

You know what? The only thing that pisses me off about this post is the highlighted bit. Judgemental shit in my opinion. As to whether you sign the papers or not is up to you. Haven't you posted on this subject before? Thought you wanted it done and dusted and then move on? Why not just do what the judge wants you to do? It's not going to go away just because you're not interested in her possessions. Maybe a shit system for your particular case but presumably it's in place to prevent the 'poorer' partner from a relationship, whether male or female, from being shafted.

copa Jan 30th 2010 9:55 pm

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you don't have to cooperate .. If she is in oz she can get it all done without you. It will just take her a bit more time and hassle.

kporte Jan 30th 2010 9:56 pm

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I kind of agree with MP. I think you should get something out of it but I have done exactly the same as you but in a common law situation.
Either fight her for what is yours or just sign the papers.....

Pollyana Jan 30th 2010 10:00 pm

Re: DIVORCE.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297936)
Nah Ozzie im not contesting the divorce,but im bitter and want her to do a bit of ****ing chasing for a change,can she just get on with it when im gone or what happens if i DONT sign the paper's ??

Sign them and get it over with my friend, but please read my pm first :) :wub:

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:04 pm

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Originally Posted by quoll (Post 8297960)
Then she will have to chase you, wont she? I am sure that many partners in divorce have done just that. Become invisible and nick off - not your worry then really. They certainly wont stop you leaving the country. Only problem I can see for you is if you fall in love in the next 3 weeks and want to marry someone else.

I know there are two sides to every divorce story but it doesnt sound like you are getting a fair deal from this one, even if you didnt want anything, but that is your decision alone.

Good luck Mr Invisible!

Ha ha what ya like,marry again:rofl: No im going to be bitter and let her do some road work for a change:frown:

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8297982)
Sign them and get it over with my friend, but please read my pm first :) :wub:

Read my lips NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:frown:

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:06 pm

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[QUOTE=copa;8297972]you don't have to cooperate .. If she is in oz she can get it all done without you. It will just take her a bit more time and hassle.[/QUOTE

Thank you that was the answer i was looking for:thumbup:

seayork2002 Jan 30th 2010 10:08 pm

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A divorce is a dissolution of a marriage totally separate for an application for financial/children (if this applies) matters, so until she files that I am not sure what to say....there are very good free legal advice websites out there, I am not sure of the links though.

Geelong Gent Jan 30th 2010 10:08 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8297966)
You know what? The only thing that pisses me off about this post is the highlighted bit. Judgemental shit in my opinion. As to whether you sign the papers or not is up to you. Haven't you posted on this subject before? Thought you wanted it done and dusted and then move on? Why not just do what the judge wants you to do? It's not going to go away just because you're not interested in her possessions. Maybe a shit system for your particular case but presumably it's in place to prevent the 'poorer' partner from a relationship, whether male or female, from being shafted.

Typical women:rofl:

Bernie go for gold. Invest in a good solicitor before you leave. That you can trust to get on with things in your abscence. Delaying tactics will not necessarily deliver you the satisfaction you require. Contact details C/O Mss Long legs, big Hooters might:p

copa Jan 30th 2010 10:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297997)

Thank you that was the answer i was looking for:thumbup:

my ex in qld didn't want to divorce me .. I left her .... so she dragged it out as long as possible... just as i was going to get it done without her she cooperated. There are certain rules about it ...

it was a few years ago now .... download a divorce pack somewhere for an explanation.

I should add ... i never had kids with her and we divided all assets evenly by sitting down with a piece of paper and wrote down who got what.

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Geelong Gent (Post 8298001)
Typical women:rofl:

Bernie go for gold. Invest in a good solicitor before you leave. That you can trust to get on with things in your abscence. Delaying tactics will not necessarily deliver you the satisfaction you require. Contact details C/O Mss Long legs, big Hooters might:p

:lol: Muppet.

copa Jan 30th 2010 10:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Geelong Gent (Post 8298001)
Typical women:rofl:

Bernie go for gold. Invest in a good solicitor before you leave. That you can trust to get on with things in your abscence. Delaying tactics will not necessarily deliver you the satisfaction you require. Contact details C/O Mss Long legs, big Hooters might:p

I'd contact Relationships Australia first to see if they offer some sort of dispute resolution re property and assets before going the legal path.

Pollyana Jan 30th 2010 10:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297994)
Read my lips NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:frown:

Fair enough, I'd rather you did that than signed them without reading the pm :p

In your shoes I'd be signing to get it over with, but I do understand your point of view :thumbup:

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by copa (Post 8298007)
my ex in qld didn't want to divorce me .. I left her .... so she dragged it out as long as possible... just as i was going to get it done without her she cooperated. There are certain rules about it ...

it was a few years ago now .... download a divorce pack somewhere for an explanation.

I should add ... i never had kids with her and we divided all assets evenly by sitting down with a piece of paper and wrote down who got what.

No kids,i could have taken her for half of what she has which trust me is a lot but i came into the relationship/marriage with nothing i will leave with nothing,what she has she earned on her own.

seayork2002 Jan 30th 2010 10:23 pm

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Then you and her (if you both agree) can file "consent orders" without a solicitor and shouldn't cost you a penny, as long as one of you has a copy of the marriage certificate.



Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8298033)

No kids,i could have taken her for half of what she has which trust me is a lot but i came into the relationship/marriage with nothing i will leave with nothing,what she has she earned on her own.


spartacus Jan 30th 2010 10:26 pm

Re: DIVORCE.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8298033)
No kids,i could have taken her for half of what she has which trust me is a lot but i came into the relationship/marriage with nothing i will leave with nothing,what she has she earned on her own.

I wonder, had the roles been reversed, whether she'd be so accomodating . . .

slapphead_otool Jan 30th 2010 10:27 pm

Re: DIVORCE.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297899)
Ok long story short,the wife left me and as much as i tried to sort things out,counselling etc all i got was verbal abuse,lies to my friends and family painting me as an abusive alcoholic,very very upsetting to them and total ****ing shit,no i've had an email sweet as ****ing sugar asking me to sign the divorce papers.I even got shit for signing papers to say i wanted nothing from her extensive property interests/shares etc because i used a justice of the peace and not a solicitor because i could not afford one,the judge threw it out cause he thought i was getting a bad deal,i didnt want shit !!

Perhaps im bitter but what happens if i dont sign the papers,im off to Ireland in a few weeks.I expect the usual flack from the wimmin on here but i am hurt.

Mate, I feel for you.

The most surprising thing in my life was how quickly my ex wife turned nasty, and the extent of it.

Halfway though extensive and expensive divorce proceedings (we had no kids but quite a lot of assets) I threw the towel in and said it was worth everything just to be shut of her.

I got my revenge in other ways.... :):):)

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:29 pm

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Originally Posted by spartacus (Post 8298049)
I wonder, had the roles been reversed, whether she'd be so accomodating . . .

No Sparty she would not,but i will leave with my dignity.

Bernieboy Jan 30th 2010 10:33 pm

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Thanks for all yer opinions(except the usual caustic responce from moneypen:rolleyes:) and advice much appreciated:thumbup:

viviennef Jan 30th 2010 10:37 pm

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Perhaps it would be more dignified just to sign them. Personally i am quite vindictive when hurt but have learnt that things keep have a tendency to kick me back. Its a nightmare situation but not signing it, I think will keep it alive in yoru stomach. Your ex won't hurt badly, she'll just hink - see I told you he is a tosser and just get it the other way. You though won't be part of that. Its like a funeral gives closure.

I would stop thinking about how she feels and start concentrating solely on you and what makes you happy. Perhaps take up chanting or something to get it out of your guts.

Good luck whatever
Viv

petensue Jan 30th 2010 10:43 pm

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Maybe you have good reason to make her wait for a divorce but if she was that horrible to you I think you should sign them to be shot of her.Sign them for your own good rather than hers.Sue

moneypenny20 Jan 30th 2010 11:00 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8298067)
Thanks for all yer opinions(except the usual caustic responce from moneypen:rolleyes:) and advice much appreciated:thumbup:

usual caustic? Where? Because I didn't think the 'flack from women' comment necessary? Get a grip. I actually suggested you sign the papers and get it over and done with, don't think I was the only one to suggest it.

Oh sorry, nearly forgot........:rolleyes:

Amazulu Jan 30th 2010 11:10 pm

Re: DIVORCE.
 

Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8297899)
Ok long story short,the wife left me and as much as i tried to sort things out,counselling etc all i got was verbal abuse,lies to my friends and family painting me as an abusive alcoholic,very very upsetting to them and total ****ing shit,no i've had an email sweet as ****ing sugar asking me to sign the divorce papers.I even got shit for signing papers to say i wanted nothing from her extensive property interests/shares etc because i used a justice of the peace and not a solicitor because i could not afford one,the judge threw it out cause he thought i was getting a bad deal,i didnt want shit !!

Perhaps im bitter but what happens if i dont sign the papers,im off to Ireland in a few weeks.I expect the usual flack from the wimmin on here but i am hurt.

Take her to the cleaners dude - if the shoe was on the other foot.....

Good luck anyway.

Amazulu Jan 30th 2010 11:22 pm

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Originally Posted by copa (Post 8298007)
my ex in qld didn't want to divorce me .. I left her .... so she dragged it out as long as possible... just as i was going to get it done without her she cooperated. There are certain rules about it ...

it was a few years ago now .... download a divorce pack somewhere for an explanation.

I should add ... i never had kids with her and we divided all assets evenly by sitting down with a piece of paper and wrote down who got what.

A (slightly off-topic) post but here goes:
We had a great family doctor in SA, a top bloke who was quite friendly with my parents -
He was married to a Welsh woman
For whatever reasons he tried to divorce her - she did not want it and contested it at every step
Eventually he managed to force the divorce through - my mom saw him at his surgery and he was very happy
A few weeks later, after he had gone missing, his body was discovered in the boot of his BMW, at the airport with a bullet between his eyes
After many months the police charged his wife with his murder - they think she hired a hitman (I shit you not)
Court could not find her guilty due to lack of evidence
Police tried again
Judge threw it out again
Police gave up
Last I heard she is a free woman

True story

LaLaLayla Jan 30th 2010 11:25 pm

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I spent 3 years in the High Court with my divorce. Mate, divorce is a killer. Make it as smooth as possible for your own sake.

scottishcelts Jan 30th 2010 11:28 pm

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Me thinks Hebe is a lawyer - or along those lines somewhere :thumbup:

gobbyjock Jan 30th 2010 11:28 pm

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When I split from my first hubby (lying cheating arse!) I walked away, went to a solicitor signed over my half of the house to arse face (against solicitors advice) but picked what I wanted from the house (not that much). We had an official seperation but never divorced until a few years later (I just wanted away asap and to forget I ever knew him). It wasn`t until I met the lovely man who became hubby no 2 that my previous choice started to cause problems. Because we`d seperated so long we got a cheapie divorce (think it cost £50 or something because no kids were involved) but he decided to try and wring the pain out as much as possible, making arrangements to sign the paperwork & not turning up etc, said at one point he`d forgive me for leaving him if I wanted to come back (best joke ever!)then he kept wanting me to meet him in the middle of nowhere in car parks at night so he could sign (hmmm I don`t think so).
Seriously Bernie sign it, move on then the hassle really is over for you, I know you might not think so at the mo but you never know what or who is around the corner.

kporte Jan 30th 2010 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8298057)
No Sparty she would not,but i will leave with my dignity.

Follow your faith and move on mate

slapphead_otool Jan 30th 2010 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Bambi in Sydney (Post 8298152)
I spent 3 years in the High Court with my divorce. Mate, divorce is a killer. Make it as smooth as possible for your own sake.

Errrrrrr - you arnt Caroline my ex wife are you? :eek:

kporte Jan 30th 2010 11:40 pm

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Originally Posted by gobbyjock (Post 8298156)
When I split from my first hubby (lying cheating arse!) I walked away, went to a solicitor signed over my half of the house to arse face (against solicitors advice) but picked what I wanted from the house (not that much). We had an official seperation but never divorced until a few years later (I just wanted away asap and to forget I ever knew him). It wasn`t until I met the lovely man who became hubby no 2 that my previous choice started to cause problems. Because we`d seperated so long we got a cheapie divorce (think it cost £50 or something because no kids were involved) but he decided to try and wring the pain out as much as possible, making arrangements to sign the paperwork & not turning up etc, said at one point he`d forgive me for leaving him if I wanted to come back (best joke ever!)then he kept wanting me to meet him in the middle of nowhere in car parks at night so he could sign (hmmm I don`t think so).
Seriously Bernie sign it, move on then the hassle really is over for you, I know you might not think so at the mo but you never know what or who is around the corner.

I signed over a house and car that I had paid half for to an ex. Just wanted shot even though it cost me 50k.
I got a letter from her lawyer months later saying that my camera gear that I took with me was half hers and she wanted a settlement......

LaLaLayla Jan 30th 2010 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by slapphead_otool (Post 8298164)
Errrrrrr - you arnt Caroline my ex wife are you? :eek:

Yes! OMG, it's you! And you're also in SYDNEY!!! Right that's it - I'm staying in the dessert...

By the way, are you still in the army?

gobbyjock Jan 31st 2010 12:00 am

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Originally Posted by kporte (Post 8298173)
I signed over a house and car that I had paid half for to an ex. Just wanted shot even though it cost me 50k.
I got a letter from her lawyer months later saying that my camera gear that I took with me was half hers and she wanted a settlement......

Yeah, some human beings just like to wring every last drop of blood don`t they. You`d think by saying - here you go, take it, just let me move on, they`d be happy. All I had from the house was some bedding, towels, plates & my music, he moved his girlfriend in a few weeks later and told me how she liked the way I`d decorated the house and that I had good taste (so nice to know she approved, it had been my main worry that she wouldn`t like the decor :eek:).

LaLaLayla Jan 31st 2010 12:02 am

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I love this quote:

"I'm not going to bother getting married again. Next time, I'll just find someone who hates me and buy them a house".

slapphead_otool Jan 31st 2010 12:02 am

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Originally Posted by Bambi in Sydney (Post 8298195)
Yes! OMG, it's you! And you're also in SYDNEY!!! Right that's it - I'm staying in the dessert...

By the way, are you still in the army?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::
SH*T

kporte Jan 31st 2010 12:21 am

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Hope this raises a smile BB!


arkon Jan 31st 2010 4:44 am

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Originally Posted by Bernieboy (Post 8298033)
No kids,i could have taken her for half of what she has which trust me is a lot but i came into the relationship/marriage with nothing i will leave with nothing,what she has she earned on her own.

They don't think this way my friend and if the situation were reversed she would not hesitate to take you to the cleaners. So my advice is get a lawyer, I can give you the name of a good one and get what the law says you can have. You will be intitled to what they call in australia "pipe and slippers money"


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