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I have just watched on TV footage what those schoolboys did to that poor 'handicapped' girl. It has upset me and my OH so much we are in tears. If you live in Melbourne/Weribee and you know these kids or their family, do the world a favour and get a vigilante together and hunt them down and make them feel what that poor girl felt. Evil walks these days. Sometimes I think the end of the world won't be a bad thing. The fact that they openly showed them selves on camera is almost unbelieveable. Sadly it is real.

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At last I agree with you :)

Ive got me fish hooks and cleared the garden for my new orange trees :cool: Just need some fertilizer - dont think I will bother with filming - the screams might keep the neighbours up.

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I was gobsmacked last night that the news reported one had been expelled from school, but there was no mention of police charges. I hope that has changed?

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Haven't heard anything about this as still in UK but can only imagine what horrendous crime they have committed. Hope punishment comes swiftly. Remember poor little Jamie Bulger from Bootle Liverpool who was murdered by 2 older boys, well the lads were freed from prison around their 18th birthdays, had names changed, given lovely homes, new identities the lot. CRIME PAYS.
What are we teaching the children nowadays?

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The Jamie Bulger story stays with me until this day and beyond I expect, I have never felt so horrified as I did about this story and still do. I hope one day that these 'scum' suffer a million times more than their innocent victims did and rot in hell!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

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I havent seen the footage of that incident for some years now, but the vision of that poor little kid walking off innocently with those two boys will stay with me forever. :(

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I read in the Courier Mail online that the parents have contacted the police and arranged for their boys to be interviewed. They seem pretty disgusted themselves. Its not always the parents fault.

Jane :)

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Good on the parents.. but why leave it to the parents, the police should have been on it like a shot.

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probs because they r minors the evil little shits.............good on the parents, had to laff about the accusations that it was Jackass2 that brought about the attack...what a load of pish

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This realy p***** me off the way they say minors dont understand what they are doing, BULL***T I knew exactly what was right and wrong from about the age of 5.

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totally agree, these little sods r evil in my books...they knew what they were doin

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sometimes i look around my class and wonder out of them who will be the doctor, solicitor, brickie, etc..then i can usually pick out the ones who will be in trouble with the law.

despite everthing some people just have that nastiness in them.

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Indeed, a terrible thing to happen, however, without sounding like I'm having a go - can I correct you on your terminology?

The word 'handicapped' stems from many years ago when disabled children would sit on street corners with 'cap in hand' begging for food and/ or money. I imagine some would actually find the phrase quite offensive now-a-days? :)

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That's the phrase I just heard them use on the news but then it was channel 7's. ABC said 'learning disabled'.

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I agree also !

but you know, the most annoying thing about it is there will be some group of "do - gooders" that will appear from the woodwork saying that we cant infringe on their human rights,and not to be too hard on them cause they're only children etc etc and other crap like that! Those little sods should be locked up and they key thrown away!!
Its like the kids who killed that poor little boy Jamie Bulger, its not fair that they got given new identities, new homes etc they should have had to face up to what they had done !!!! :mad:

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I have two nieces who are 'special needs' - so believe me the story hurt - one of them is so innocent and will never grow up.

At the time of writing I was upset and fuming at the same time. 'handicapped' sort of came to mind. I don't think the point you make is valid really - bit P.C. of you but never mind eh?

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PC? No, not quite! I have a physically disabled cousin and some close family friends have a mentally disabled daughter. I PERSONALLY find the phrase 'handicapped' offensive!!!!!

PC? My arse....it's an offensive and VERY out of date piece of terminology, generally used by un-educated and/ or ignorant people!

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ooh and god forbid someone offends you :rolleyes:
lighten up mate, handicapped is a phrase that is used even by Medical staff! Whether it is PC or not, its a fact !!! Why do you feel the need to jump on the OP for using it like that! There is bound to be endless threads with words or things that people may not like, but to come back with that attitute is a bit much !

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what I love about here is people just say what they mean...on the news this bloke said I hope they jail the little bastards and the inmates get a hold of them......well said IMO

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I also have a cousin who has cerebral palsy - I am NOT ignorant NOR uneducated :mad: and my cousin is handicapped. How can that one word be offensive :confused:
And why on earth would you be offended :confused:

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I agree - I worked here at a special needs school and the children were termed as being 'handicapped' or disabled.

I think any word can be taken the wrong way - but only if a word is used in a derogatory fashion then should it be taken that way. I think it is about time sensible adults learned to realise this and stop taking offence so easily.

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Not taking anything away from the severity of the crime but in my mind it is almost irrelevant that the child concerned has a disability. It was an absolutely horrific thing for a group of supposed human beings to do to another human being so let's stop the inhouse bitching about who has a more disabled relative than the other please :rolleyes:

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I know that you're upset, but be careful what you post. That could be classed as incitement to violence.

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Oh come on!

I suppose you mean that you have a "less abled cousin" and the friends have a "differently intellectually abled" daughter. *Your* terminology might offend others.

Yours in ignorance <g>. (It's not a laughing matter but you do need to think through the PC inferences.)

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If I remember from my PC training it should be:

Cousin with disabilities

Daughter with learning difficulties

Calling someone disabled / handicapped should be avoided because it's labelling the whole person as 'defective'. Their legs, for example, might have impaired mobility but the rest of the person works fine. Probably doesn't mean much to you if you don't have physical or mental disabilities, but I've found it to be important to those who do (my ex has muscular dystrophy and difficulties walking).

I wear glasses, I wouldn't want to be called a 'short sighted person', prefer to be called 'a person wearing glasses' (if anyone has to point it out at all!) or 'a person who's short sighted'. Semantics, yes, but self-esteem/image issues are big things with people with disabilities.

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Oh please, dont tell me someone actually teaches that stuff !!!!
As i said earlier, Medical staff will refer to someone as having a handicap, it is certainly NOT meant in a derogatory fashion, it simply refers to that person being unfortunate to have some form of disability.
And with regards to a person wearing glasses, most people would say that you wear glasses, who would know if you were short sighted, long sighted or whatever, most people wouldn't even notice ! Some people just like making an issue of it for the sake of it.

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Watching "Today Tonight" is incitement to violence ...

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here

An article from a disabled persons point of view.

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So If disabled/handicapped should be avoided why does the UK Government pay disability?



Why don't they call it something else?

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Thanks for that Russ.....interesting to hear *disabled* (my preffered terminology) persons views!

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Remember we are mostly humans on here. We're not quite 'Gattaca' YET. Please get over it. I started the thread because of a genuine feeling of sadness for the girl and the way things 'seem' to be going. If that is incitement to violence, I don't want any part of 'your world'. Thanks.

my neices are what they are. Judged on how they perform and we have to make allowances no matter what YOU think. They are at a 'disadvantage' but are oh so lucky to be living where their 'disadavantages' (as we see them) are catered for. In many places, they would not have been. These girls are LUCKY. IMO.

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It really doesn't matter how PC or not the terminology is. Language is a means of communication between ourselves and we all understood the meaning of the OP regardless of the terminology used. That we 'got it' means that the language used was suitable, whatever social conventions people choose to stamp upon that.

I don't understand the focus on why this particular terminology is ruling this thread when the real issue is that a group of young men took hideous advantage of a person less able than most to protect herself, filmed it and distributed that film for profit.
Surely that should be getting more people inflamed than whether it's PC or not to use certain words?

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You are too sensible for your own good.

It'll be the ruin of you, you know.

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:D LOL. (I'm glad you understood me) :o


PS - You haven't see me drunk. ;)

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You made perfect sense. Some people focus on the words rather than the content / context and miss the sense and sensibility. Political correctness sometimes creates more of a divide than the problem itself.

Off track here IP....but I was in the Blue Mountains last week and I thought about you. What a FANTASTIC place you live in;)

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I also think the whole thing is unbelieveably awful.
But don't you think what you said was incitement to violence?
J.

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You came here? Aw, you should have said!!! Next time, eh?
It is beautiful... Really awe inspiring. I love it. Where did you go?

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Oh come on! :rolleyes: Anyone in Melbourne right now, planning on vigilante responses to this thread, could you let us know please? :rolleyes:

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It is absolutely fabulous. No wonder you love it. I was sooooo inspired by how Lovely and scenic and open, fresh it was given it was only a couple of hours from central Sydney. It was bloody cold on the evening though, but lovely, clean *fresh* cold if you know what I mean. Yep, I definitely know now why you love it;)

I was on business m8....so couldn't make arrangements otherwise I would have definitely called you for a drink. I stayed at Peppers.

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you don't think that doesn't happen then?