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Old Feb 9th 2013, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by irishbloo
Sounds like your daughter is lacking in confidence.Try and reassure that she is a lovely young lady.Maybe take her out for a girly day.Get her to drink plenty fluids to try and flush the thrush out.She may need some antibiotics.Encourage her to make an appointment with the school counsellor.I hope she gets some help soon.
I am trying to get her to drink more- and eat garlic and probiotic yoghurt. (Probably not as effective as antibiotics, but the last time she took them she got an inflamed oesophagus, as she spends a lot of her day inverted, doing tumble turns etc, and now she refuses to take pills any more.) Think some of it might have been PMT as by last night when the period had started she was ok. No time for girly days, and she doesn't really do that stuff anyway.


I do tell her she is lovely, and tell her when she looks nice.

And the garlic is separate to the yoghurt!!
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Did anyone take the test?
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A Ballade of Suicide (1915), G.K. Chesterton

The gallows in my garden, people say,
Is new and neat and adequately tall;
I tie the noose on in a knowing way
As one that knots his necktie for a ball;
But just as all the neighbours on the wall
Are drawing a long breath to shout “Hurray!”
The strangest whim has seized me… After all
I think I will not hang myself to-day.

To-morrow is the time I get my pay
My uncle’s sword is hanging in the hall
I see a little cloud all pink and grey
Perhaps the rector’s mother will NOT call
I fancy that I heard from Mr. Gall
That mushrooms could be cooked another way
I never read the works of Juvenal
I think I will not hang myself to-day.

The world will have another washing-day;
The decadents decay; the pedants pall;
And H.G. Wells has found that children play,
And Bernard Shaw discovered that they squall;
Rationalists are growing rational
And through thick woods one finds a stream astray,
So secret that the very sky seems small
I think I will not hang myself to-day.
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Default Re: Depression / anxiety

Originally Posted by paulry
Did anyone take the test?
Not if you have to sign up and be forced to be happy!!

(I am the human grumpy cat this morning- got up at 5am to take DD swimming training and will have another 2 hours at the lawyers discussing our wills. Not my idea of fun at all. And expensive. )
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Originally Posted by carolinephillips
Not if you have to sign up and be forced to be happy!!

(I am the human grumpy cat this morning- got up at 5am to take DD swimming training and will have another 2 hours at the lawyers discussing our wills. Not my idea of fun at all. And expensive. )
Yeah there is that, they could have designed it better because it's an impediment to people using it, IMO.

Not sure if your circumstances are particularly complicated but can't you buy a will kit and leave the lawyers penniless?
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Only really had chemical induced depression and a quick bout of reactive depression when I took my trust to court for discrimination and bullying that was bad enough you all have my deepest sympathy.
One of the biggest problems with depression and anxiety are the sheer helplessness that those around you feel. Very few people know how to help you and that makes it hard on everyone as the person who is suffering is the last person to be able to tell them what to do.

It is good that people are more open and accepting of mental illness but there is still a long way to go.
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Default Re: Depression / anxiety

Originally Posted by paulry
Yeah there is that, they could have designed it better because it's an impediment to people using it, IMO.

Not sure if your circumstances are particularly complicated but can't you buy a will kit and leave the lawyers penniless?
Yes, a bit complicated in that we have to set up a trust fund for DD and also need separate wills for the superannuation funds so that they still comply with QROPS. So 4 wills and 2 mirrored trust funds. I've just signed 200 sheets of paper!!!!
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anyone tried accupuncture to treat depression and to take one off meds? Pls don't jump down my throat as I am merely enquiring
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Default Re: Depression / anxiety

Originally Posted by carolinephillips
I am trying to get her to drink more- and eat garlic and probiotic yoghurt. (Probably not as effective as antibiotics, but the last time she took them she got an inflamed oesophagus, as she spends a lot of her day inverted, doing tumble turns etc, and now she refuses to take pills any more.) Think some of it might have been PMT as by last night when the period had started she was ok. No time for girly days, and she doesn't really do that stuff anyway.


I do tell her she is lovely, and tell her when she looks nice.

And the garlic is separate to the yoghurt!!
This is the daughter doing exceedingly well in the state swimming?
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Originally Posted by RedDragon2008
This is the daughter doing exceedingly well in the state swimming?
She didn't do extremely well- she was 40th out of 47 in backstroke and 2nd last in breaststroke at last weekend's Metros. Her fellow squad members are the ones doing well. I was just pleased she finished the breaststroke without pain in her knee. It is the last time she will swim 100m breast and back- her final races are 200 IM and 100 free, plus 50 m of each stroke at the school carnival on Thursday, and whatever 50m swims the coach gives her for IGSSA on 8th March.

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anyone tried accupuncture to treat depression and to take one off meds? Pls don't jump down my throat as I am merely enquiring
Nope, but I'm told it can help.

Someone I know very well is now 100% drug free thanks to megadoses of niacin and vit C. To him its been a miracle cure.

Good luck

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Nope, but I'm told it can help.

Someone I know very well is now 100% drug free thanks to megadoses of niacin and vit C. To him its been a miracle cure.

Good luck
Niacin in megadoses ....?

Hope he/she has regular liver function tests..... Niacin is extremely toxic in large doses.
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Old Feb 19th 2013, 4:24 pm
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Niacin in megadoses ....?

Hope he/she has regular liver function tests..... Niacin is extremely toxic in large doses.
Thats a pharmaceutical company claim - the same people who make huge profits selling these.

....Whereas

The doses are comfortably within the safe ranges stated here

An interesting thing is if someone can be cured by megavitamin treatment alone, then it raises into doubt the original diagnosis - which should more appropriately described as a vitamin dificiency/dependency and NOT one of the mental illness pidgeonholes. That's the problem with mental health doctors these days. Trained by pharmaceutical-funded institutions, all they really do is pidgeonhole and medicate. I despair about the number of (especially young) people out there whose lives have been destroyed by long term psychotropic use. One such example who I know personally - a former neighbour who after more than ten years of such treatments is on a hopeless spiral of ever-increasing dosages and medication switches. And after so many years of damage by pharma drugs, not even megavitamin treatment can help him now. It's scandalous

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The doses stated in your link carry the recommendation that liver function is tested regularly... Every 6-12 weeks....

Its Standard protocol ...

Unfortunately people who self medicate with over the counter "vitamins" won't know that...
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The doses stated in your link carry the recommendation that liver function is tested regularly... Every 6-12 weeks....

Its Standard protocol ...

Unfortunately people who self medicate with over the counter "vitamins" won't know that...
The person concerned has liver function tests done every few months or so for another reason and he also has regular tests done by his nutritionist (who is also his GP) for vitamin deficiencies, etc. I'll mention to him that he should check that his GP includes the liver function test in her "scan" as a double check. Thanks for the heads up on it, in the relief of escaping the pharmaceutical medication trap and their shocking side-effect profiles it's important to make sure that all bases are covered regarding any risks that might exist with the much healthier vitamin based alternative.

I should point out that while the results that I and many others have seen with megavitamin therapy have been dazzling, anyone considering going down the same path should consult an orthomolecular specialist first. And whatever you do, don't abruptly stop taking your pharmaceutical meds in favour of vitamins. It needs to be a very gradual and well-managed transition taking at least many months.
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