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sammax Jun 11th 2012 4:16 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10104632)
I can probably guarantee you that a fair number of them are going through exactly the same shit but just don't have the strength to discuss it openly. It's only when you do open up and admit that some things are not right, that they will begin to go in the right direction.

My son who is bi-polar has just lost the job opportunity of a lifetime, won't go into the details of what it was, but it was something that he, myself and his father have tried to get for him for a long time, passed all the entrance exams and interviews etc (not to mention the money we have spent which runs into thousands), but he came to see me at work the other day to tell me he had been sacked. We just don't know what to do with him next. He goes from one disaster to another.

moneypenny20 Jun 12th 2012 11:19 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by sammax (Post 10113850)
My son who is bi-polar has just lost the job opportunity of a lifetime, won't go into the details of what it was, but it was something that he, myself and his father have tried to get for him for a long time, passed all the entrance exams and interviews etc (not to mention the money we have spent which runs into thousands), but he came to see me at work the other day to tell me he had been sacked. We just don't know what to do with him next. He goes from one disaster to another.

That sucks! Presumably he'd had previous warnings and there's no going back? You have my sympathies.

Penny45 Jun 12th 2012 1:58 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by avi (Post 10107332)
Hi I know this might not help but if you are seriously concerned especially where self harming is concered take them to the ED department and they should do something not too sure thoughas we have been over her 1 year and things are different.

When appointments are reduced the client/patient panic and think they cant cope and therefore revert back to previous behaviour. It is very difficult and you also need to make sure you are supported as well because it will drain you as well you could attempt some other things that divert her rather than FB such as real contact or phone contact. Also activites such as craft music games puzzles painting or even journalling but dont read it unless she offers it to you. I would recommend writing in bad days and good days so she can refer back and see how things have worked in the past.

Also try not to reduce severity of any "incidents" or the impact on others let them know you are scared for them. Ask them to assess thier level of unsafeness on a scale of 1-10 ask them if they have anything which they can hurt themselves with. You cant stand guard 24/7 and if they gonna do it they will. Make them aware its the behaviour u dont like not them u love them but the behaviour hurts and consequence of this behaviour is ..... stitches seeing dr pain scars etc.

If they are verbalising depression again assess scale 1-10 but also see if anything changed with thier behaviour sometimes meds help but can have side effects Also look for some support groups

Hope this helps apologies if it dosent but I feel for you all and remember things can get better and do I see it every day at work so my kids at the mo no depression or Self harm but I work with it every day .

Thanks Avi, some very useful points there. We have been playing games (on the computer but at least in the same room!) She has been to doc again today and it seems she's doing better. Although she has cut again over the weekend :( I'm probably making her more anxious as keep fussing over her and asking where she's going if she leaves the room. I'll probably be borderline alcoholic by the time we get through all this :)
With the relaxing thing - do you mean like in yoga so from toes up relaxing each bit of the body?

Originally Posted by carolinephillips (Post 10107403)
I've pulled DD from swimming tomorrow, and out of the carnival. coaches not happy about the latter. DD is having blood tests tomorrow, so maybe they will show up something.

Meanwhile I'm stressing a bit about my blood tests which say I'm borderline pregnant!!!! Well, that would be a miracle at my age, and seeing as I was menopausal at 40. Anyway, it is either a blip, which is most likely, or I've got a cyst or something causing a false result. New blood test for me on Wednesday, when I also get my MRI results. No wonder my BP is up to 150/90.

Hoping you have some clarity today Caroline and your daughter has started to feel better with not having so much on her plate. x

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10109077)
Funeral was this morning and if you can call a funeral lovely it really was. Lots of tears but also lots of laughter as her family and her friends remembered her. If any of you have ever been to Pinnaroo Valley Memorial Park it really is the most beautiful setting and the weather was kind to us all. I told the kids I had in my car afterwards that NOTHING is unfixable. Communication is key, I might not always like what I hear but tell me anyway. The only thing that isn't fixable is what Kim did and I don't want to be doing that again in a hurry. Let's hope that such a tragic event may help some of these kids seek help for their troubles rather than be consumed by them.

So glad you got through that ok, hope all her friends continue to support each other. You're right, communication is vital, my daughter does talk a lot to me, it's my reactions and responses that I have to continue working on!

carolinephillips Jun 12th 2012 2:07 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
Yippee- no change on the MRI so it isn't MS affecting me. Nope, it is arthritis and stress. At least that means no steroids and I can come off the endep and just use paracetamol and physio if necessary. Wonder if I can then be passed as fit to work??

They took more blood today to check out the pregnancy blip- but as the prof said, there will be a star rising in the east if I am still positive!!!!

northernbird Jun 12th 2012 2:34 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by Penny45 (Post 10115739)

So glad you got through that ok, hope all her friends continue to support each other. You're right, communication is vital, my daughter does talk a lot to me, it's my reactions and responses that I have to continue working on!

You are so right, this is my main issue but we have had nearly a week now of good atmosphere in the house. Her Dad arrives home today so I expect a good week ahead but you know what, I am just taking a day at a time. Hope things continue to go well for you too.

sammax Jun 15th 2012 6:18 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10115588)
That sucks! Presumably he'd had previous warnings and there's no going back? You have my sympathies.

Thanks and yes, he had had previous warnings, although we didn't find this out until afterwards. He's the sort who opens final demands and fines etc and just shoves them in the drawer, likewise warning letters - the proverbial ostrich.

eddie007 Jun 15th 2012 11:39 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by sammax (Post 10122082)
Thanks and yes, he had had previous warnings, although we didn't find this out until afterwards. He's the sort who opens final demands and fines etc and just shoves them in the drawer, likewise warning letters - the proverbial ostrich.

That kind of behaviour is very common in some mental illnesses.... My mate who is bipolar lost his city based job, but for the next 12 months got up every day, dressed himself in a suit and caught the train to london as though nothing had changed.... Heaven knows what he was doing... Unfortunately his parents only discovered some of the truth after he was arrested and in some quite serious trouble because of his delusional behaviours.

Its so sad...

paulry Sep 13th 2012 4:52 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
This is another interesting article about the possible connections between antibiotic ravaged gut bacteria and mental health problems. Ironic thing is the phamaceutical companies who benefitted from destroying gut bacteria ecosystems are the same who are raking in profits selling further damaging anti-psychotics.

Experiencing dazzling results for over six months now from the combined usage of orthomolecular therapy, mindfulness and more recently: efforts to restore gut bacteria. :cool:

carolinephillips Sep 13th 2012 9:09 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10279393)
This is another interesting article about the possible connections between antibiotic ravaged gut bacteria and mental health problems. Ironic thing is the phamaceutical companies who benefitted from destroying gut bacteria ecosystems are the same who are raking in profits selling further damaging anti-psychotics.

Experiencing dazzling results for over six months now from the combined usage of orthomolecular therapy, mindfulness and more recently: efforts to restore gut bacteria. :cool:

So should we all be guzzling probiotics like there's no tomorrow?

Glad you are feeling better.

paulry Sep 13th 2012 9:46 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by carolinephillips (Post 10279783)
So should we all be guzzling probiotics like there's no tomorrow?

Admittedly, gut bacteria has been a more recent area that I have been studying but almost certainly its best to seek alternatives before ramping up on antibiotics, and there's no harm in guzzling a probiotic drink a day after a meal.

If suffering from first time mental health issues, I suggest seeking out an orthomolecular specialist before a psychiatrist, the latter of whom being likely to prescribe anti-psychotics and little else.

Dorothy Sep 13th 2012 11:55 am

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10279393)
This is another interesting article about the possible connections between antibiotic ravaged gut bacteria and mental health problems. Ironic thing is the phamaceutical companies who benefitted from destroying gut bacteria ecosystems are the same who are raking in profits selling further damaging anti-psychotics.

Experiencing dazzling results for over six months now from the combined usage of orthomolecular therapy, mindfulness and more recently: efforts to restore gut bacteria. :cool:

I call bullshit.

Jon77 Sep 13th 2012 12:50 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 10115588)
That sucks! Presumably he'd had previous warnings and there's no going back? You have my sympathies.

This is awful, I am reading the bio of Vincent Van Gogh at the moment and he went through things like this every year! Couldn't fit in or hold a job any where.

I had similar experiences in my late teens and 20's and it is terrible, you can sometimes know / see what is going wrong at work and you know what the ultimate outcome is going to be if you don't change it. But it gets out of control and past the point where as much as you try you just cannot stop it from happening. And then you get so down with yourself because you tried so hard to stop this happening but couldn't. Then you feel ashamed because of what has happened and hide it from family and friends and the whole cycle goes around again........................... :(

earlybird Sep 13th 2012 12:58 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 
I have been back at work this term after being off at the end of last term. I am on a Return to Work Program and only working 3 hours a day and doing one thing not doing all the things I did as Assistant Principal, Reading Recovery Teacher and classroom teacher. I am only doing the Reading Recovery aspect now. On medication for depression which seems to balance things out a bit but still have the anxiety bubbling in the background. The department wants me to increase my duties next term so will have to see how that goes.

paulry Sep 13th 2012 1:16 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by earlybird (Post 10280020)
I have been back at work this term after being off at the end of last term. I am on a Return to Work Program and only working 3 hours a day and doing one thing not doing all the things I did as Assistant Principal, Reading Recovery Teacher and classroom teacher. I am only doing the Reading Recovery aspect now. On medication for depression which seems to balance things out a bit but still have the anxiety bubbling in the background. The department wants me to increase my duties next term so will have to see how that goes.

Sorry to read that you are struggling with anxiety. Maybe try visiting a good nutritionist for advice. The B vitamins (such as B12, B Complex) helps against anxiety.

earlybird Sep 13th 2012 1:47 pm

Re: Depression / anxiety
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 10280039)
Sorry to read that you are struggling with anxiety. Maybe try visiting a good nutritionist for advice. The B vitamins (such as B12, B Complex) helps against anxiety.

When I was at the peak of my stress last term I was taking Blackmores Executive Stress Vitamin B that certainly helped. Must start taking them again.


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