Culture!
Jun 21st 2007, 7:42 pm
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Culture!
I don't meant to be offensive, but the more I try and think about what Australian culture is, the more I ask myself do they actually have a definitive culture?
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
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Jun 21st 2007, 7:52 pm
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funny you should say that because I struggle to see British culture, apart from Morris Dancing!!!
Jun 21st 2007, 7:52 pm
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Popcorn...?
Jun 21st 2007, 7:58 pm
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We have a unique national sport (Aussie Rules); we have unique slang, we have unique institutions, we have a unique history, we have a unique national identity, we have our own poets, authors, playwrights, singers, actors, composers, artists, musicians, customs, traditions, social mores, architects, builders, inventors, humourists, etc. If that doesn't add up to an Australian culture, I don't know what does.
Try clicking here and see what you make of it.
Jun 21st 2007, 8:08 pm
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funny you should say that because I struggle to see British culture, apart from Morris Dancing!!!
funny you should say that because I struggle to see British culture, apart from Morris Dancing!!!
Well we started of football, rugby and cricket!
Literature including, Beowulf, Chaucer , Defoe, Blake, Wordsworth, Keats, Byron, Austen, the Bronte sisters, Dickens, Thackeray, Eliot, Hardy, and not forgetting Shakespeare!
Britain and the States are still the two main countries in the development of
modern music (though much of it isn't good)!
Architecture, Science I could go on and on.
The point is I wasn't having a go at Australia, I am just curious as to what Australian culture is all about!
Jun 21st 2007, 8:08 pm
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I don't meant to be offensive, but the more I try and think about what Australian culture is, the more I ask myself do they actually have a definitive culture?
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
Jun 21st 2007, 8:16 pm
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Yeah we have loads of culture in UK
CHAVS,
drinking far too much and creating pavement pizzas,
fighting at 4am over a taxi
old stone walls and grotty streets
and ripping each off in a grand style
dusty, dingy pubs ready to be closed down as no-one can afford to go out drinking in them
CHAVS,
drinking far too much and creating pavement pizzas,
fighting at 4am over a taxi
old stone walls and grotty streets
and ripping each off in a grand style
dusty, dingy pubs ready to be closed down as no-one can afford to go out drinking in them
Jun 21st 2007, 8:20 pm
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Re: Culture!
Yeah we have loads of culture in UK
CHAVS,
drinking far too much and creating pavement pizzas,
fighting at 4am over a taxi
old stone walls and grotty streets
and ripping each off in a grand style
dusty, dingy pubs ready to be closed down as no-one can afford to go out drinking in them
CHAVS,
drinking far too much and creating pavement pizzas,
fighting at 4am over a taxi
old stone walls and grotty streets
and ripping each off in a grand style
dusty, dingy pubs ready to be closed down as no-one can afford to go out drinking in them
and if you dont think that that doesnt happen over here too your on drugs
take the rose tints off mate
that or take a walk around surfers at 2am
Jun 21st 2007, 8:34 pm
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Thanks for the link Vash the Stampede.
On bit made me laugh
"In the 1990 gulf war, the United States unveiled its stealth bomber; an $11 billion plane that had been designed "invisible." Three years later, scientists at Australia's CSIRO unveiled the Jindalee Radar System; a $1.5 million dollar invention that, by being by being able to detect the stealth bomber, transformed the $11 billion aircraft into nothing more than an unusual looking plane."
This method has not been proven to work! Also it was actually unveiled in 1988.
Similar story don't know if its true or not. In the 1960's before the Apollo project, the Americans spent millions of $ developing a pen that could write under water, on shinny surfaces such as glass, at high temperature, in zero gravity conditions and in sub zero temperatures! The Russians however just used a pencil!
On bit made me laugh
"In the 1990 gulf war, the United States unveiled its stealth bomber; an $11 billion plane that had been designed "invisible." Three years later, scientists at Australia's CSIRO unveiled the Jindalee Radar System; a $1.5 million dollar invention that, by being by being able to detect the stealth bomber, transformed the $11 billion aircraft into nothing more than an unusual looking plane."
This method has not been proven to work! Also it was actually unveiled in 1988.
Similar story don't know if its true or not. In the 1960's before the Apollo project, the Americans spent millions of $ developing a pen that could write under water, on shinny surfaces such as glass, at high temperature, in zero gravity conditions and in sub zero temperatures! The Russians however just used a pencil!
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Jun 21st 2007, 9:09 pm
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Thanks for the link Vash the Stampede.
On bit made me laugh
"In the 1990 gulf war, the United States unveiled its stealth bomber; an $11 billion plane that had been designed "invisible." Three years later, scientists at Australia's CSIRO unveiled the Jindalee Radar System; a $1.5 million dollar invention that, by being by being able to detect the stealth bomber, transformed the $11 billion aircraft into nothing more than an unusual looking plane."
This method has not been proven to work! Also it was actually unveiled in 1988.
On bit made me laugh
"In the 1990 gulf war, the United States unveiled its stealth bomber; an $11 billion plane that had been designed "invisible." Three years later, scientists at Australia's CSIRO unveiled the Jindalee Radar System; a $1.5 million dollar invention that, by being by being able to detect the stealth bomber, transformed the $11 billion aircraft into nothing more than an unusual looking plane."
This method has not been proven to work! Also it was actually unveiled in 1988.
Similar story don't know if its true or not. In the 1960's before the Apollo project, the Americans spent millions of $ developing a pen that could write under water, on shinny surfaces such as glass, at high temperature, in zero gravity conditions and in sub zero temperatures! The Russians however just used a pencil!
Jun 21st 2007, 9:30 pm
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Jun 21st 2007, 9:40 pm
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yeah , really, I lived there for 2 years, has its social problems like anywhere, so I dont have any rose tints on cobber.
I think Aus has great culture, considering the age of the country.
Jun 21st 2007, 9:47 pm
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Culture is just about lifestyle, common values and beliefs, rituals and routines.
You will NEVER get a truly homogenous national culture as long as there is freedom of thought, people are too individual and contradictory for that.
Anywhere that there are lots of people, there is culture. Even Australia.
Are you confusing culture with history/tradition? They aren't the same.
You will NEVER get a truly homogenous national culture as long as there is freedom of thought, people are too individual and contradictory for that.
Anywhere that there are lots of people, there is culture. Even Australia.
Are you confusing culture with history/tradition? They aren't the same.
Jun 21st 2007, 10:28 pm
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I don't meant to be offensive, but the more I try and think about what Australian culture is, the more I ask myself do they actually have a definitive culture?
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
I can't really think of any cultural influence that is purely Australian (not including aboriginal culture).
There is the BBQ!
Jun 21st 2007, 11:29 pm
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On the contrary, it works rather well:
The first ship was detected in January 1983 and an aircraft automatically tracked in February 1984. Trials were carried out with the Royal Australian Air Force during April 1984, substantially fulfilling the mission of stage B, to demonstrate an OTHR operating in Australia.
[...]
Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe all air and sea activity north of Australia to distances of 3000km. This encompasses all of Java, Irian Jaya, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, and halfway across the Indian Ocean. Other sources put the range at 4000km from the Australian coastline or even as far as Taiwan, China and North Korea.
The JORN is so sensitive it was able to track planes taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. It is able to detect a Cessna 172 aeroplane and research is underway to increase the sensitivity by "up to 100 fold".
It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft; aside from the fact that most stealthy aircraft are optimized for defeating much higher-frequency radar from front-on rather than low-frequency radars from above, JORN is reputedly able to detect aircraft wake turbulence.
Wikipedia.
Also:
Stealth aircraft, such as the US Nighthawk F117A, are designed with sharp leading edges and a flat belly to minimise reflections back towards conventional ground-based radars. However, Jindalee radar bounces down from the ionosphere onto upper surfaces that include radar-reflecting protrusions for a cockpit, engine housings and other equipment.
Group Captain Hockings says stealth aircraft are coated with special radar absorbing material to avoid detection by conventional microwave radar. But the Jindalee radar uses high frequency radio waves, which have a much longer frequency than microwave radar.
"Unless designed to be stealthy to both microwave and HF radars, (stealth) aircraft would not evade detection by JORN," he said.
defence-data.com
It unrolled in three different phases, over a period of thirty years (1972-2003).
The first ship was detected in January 1983 and an aircraft automatically tracked in February 1984. Trials were carried out with the Royal Australian Air Force during April 1984, substantially fulfilling the mission of stage B, to demonstrate an OTHR operating in Australia.
[...]
Officially the system allows the Australian Defence Force to observe all air and sea activity north of Australia to distances of 3000km. This encompasses all of Java, Irian Jaya, Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands, and halfway across the Indian Ocean. Other sources put the range at 4000km from the Australian coastline or even as far as Taiwan, China and North Korea.
The JORN is so sensitive it was able to track planes taking off and landing in East Timor 2600 km away. It is able to detect a Cessna 172 aeroplane and research is underway to increase the sensitivity by "up to 100 fold".
It is also reportedly able to detect stealth aircraft; aside from the fact that most stealthy aircraft are optimized for defeating much higher-frequency radar from front-on rather than low-frequency radars from above, JORN is reputedly able to detect aircraft wake turbulence.
Also:
Stealth aircraft, such as the US Nighthawk F117A, are designed with sharp leading edges and a flat belly to minimise reflections back towards conventional ground-based radars. However, Jindalee radar bounces down from the ionosphere onto upper surfaces that include radar-reflecting protrusions for a cockpit, engine housings and other equipment.
Group Captain Hockings says stealth aircraft are coated with special radar absorbing material to avoid detection by conventional microwave radar. But the Jindalee radar uses high frequency radio waves, which have a much longer frequency than microwave radar.
"Unless designed to be stealthy to both microwave and HF radars, (stealth) aircraft would not evade detection by JORN," he said.
Also it was actually unveiled in 1988.