scrubbedexpat098

silver lining time again, no in laws 😃. I don't know what constitutes a ban though, my boss flew back to Scotland for a funeral 2 weeks ago, quarantined when he got back.

Beoz

Yep. It looks like Australia will wait for a vaccine or for the world be virus free. Can't see the rest of the world waiting for that.

moneypenny20

I honestly don't understand anyone doing that. I totally get the need to share the pain/give comfort etc but to get in a tin can at the moment when you're not even getting to see the deceased at the end seems mad. Each to their own obviously but why put yourself through that? My best friend's MiL died two weeks ago, her BIl, one of the sons, is in Perth, they set up a live feed and he and his wife and son were as involved as the UK people. A fine goodbye to a wonderful lady and no one put their health at risk.

Two planes took off from Gold Coast airport today as I was driving home, the first planes I've seen in weeks.

abner

Why judge? Even atheists mark the death of someone close to them in some form of commemoration.

And sometimes "Zoom" just doesn't suffice.

moneypenny20

I wasn't aware I was judging. I was simply voicing my opinion. I believe that's allowed.

paulry

Also to provide support to those left behind.

scrubbedexpat098

I think it was basically because the rules said they could, i can understand the need to be there. I wouldn't put myself through the 2 week quarantine though, sounded hellish to be fair, shit food and strict limits on booze, may are well be at work 🤣

BEVS

I suppose everyone reacts differently to the death of a close family member. For myself I have always thought it is far more important to spend the time with those living towards the end of their days. You do that for them, not yourself. They won't know you are there when they are dead. It is possible to have a memorial or remembrance anywhere. You just share the memories and mark a specific moment.

abner

"I honestly don't understand anyone doing that" comes across as pretty judgmental to me..

moneypenny20

No it simply means what it says. Don't try and read something that isn't there.

abner

OK, if that's the only interpretation you meant from your turn of phrase.

But at least have the grace to admit that the phrase was open to wider interpretation, that appeared at least, rather more judgmental, particularly in context...? And in the same vein, have the good grace to resile from that...

Because frankly, what you said was otherwise quite offensive as a commentary on the actions of someone who was very likely in a state of grief, however little you might have understood those actions, or even if you might have chosen a different path, if faced with a similar family death of your own.

moneypenny20

I honestly have no idea what you're reading or how you're reading my comments but please stop. Nothing I said was offensive, nothing was judgemental and no I don't feel it was open to interpretation. I said I don't understand, simply meaning I don't understand. Nothing complicated, no hidden meaning, nothing rude, nothing judgemental, nothing open to interpretation. If I thought they were stupid (which I don't) I would have said I thought they were stupid but I didn't. Please don't tell me what I should or shouldn't do, think or say, I will take such advice from my nearest and dearest, I won't from a complete stranger who's read half a dozen words on the internet.

abner

REALLY??? You hear of someone who went into quarantine, in the context of a family funeral, and feel free to describe them as "mad" to take that course, but don't see that as judgmental???

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abner

So indeed, let us emerge from <snip>.

Our family now faces a welcome new pending event, a wedding!!

Maybe?!

Previously announced, then semi-cancelled (due to Covid-19), then maybe on again. Now in October, rules permitting, or maybe February instead.

Apparently I have to give a speech, so any delay is good for all concerned.

Beoz

You may have a problem if this is overseas.