Coronavirus - how's everyone doing?
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Publicity stunt saving lives? Some things transcend money. Great time to readjust world economies breaking free of the shackles economic neoliberalism, and returning to what really matters.
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Now, the way it should fall is that those that benefited are the ones to pay, but I'm betting the Labor approach will be a tax targeted on those that didn't get made redundant, that still have the well paid jobs. All the far right have to do is be slightly more targeted than this and they will get in.
My guess is they will attempt to push up GST.
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Unfortunately I don't see much chance to break away from the far right and back towards the centre. The issue is all this money being dished out is going to need to be paid for, the debt is going to have to be paid down.
Now, the way it should fall is that those that benefited are the ones to pay, but I'm betting the Labor approach will be a tax targeted on those that didn't get made redundant, that still have the well paid jobs. All the far right have to do is be slightly more targeted than this and they will get in.
My guess is they will attempt to push up GST.
Now, the way it should fall is that those that benefited are the ones to pay, but I'm betting the Labor approach will be a tax targeted on those that didn't get made redundant, that still have the well paid jobs. All the far right have to do is be slightly more targeted than this and they will get in.
My guess is they will attempt to push up GST.
GST in the case of Australia, is something the Right have favoured increasing for a long time. Regressive taxation being their obvious platform.
Thank goodness for Arden and Merkel. Women leaders have certainly shown their worth in this crises. Add Taiwan and Norway to the list as well.
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Wrong place, wrong time, wrong content for an adversarial-style press conference, and the purpose of press conferences like these, is to get information from the authorities - not for journalists to try to debate the politicians or shout their opinions at them.
#457
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Did you see McGowan's press conference yesterday? I caught the tail end - the questions from the reporters were moronic and revolting. One asked him why he didn't want community transmission of the virus, since a "little bit" of community transmission was "good" and would encourage herd immunity (I actually wondered if the reporter asking, understood what community transmission is . . . or herd immunity). Another wanted to argue with him that AFL players should qualify as "essential workers." Then they were mostly trying to bait him and get that "gotcha" moment, and I just thought to myself, here is a perfect example of why trust in 21st century journalism is so low and how the profession has lost its way.
Wrong place, wrong time, wrong content for an adversarial-style press conference, and the purpose of press conferences like these, is to get information from the authorities - not for journalists to try to debate the politicians or shout their opinions at them.
Wrong place, wrong time, wrong content for an adversarial-style press conference, and the purpose of press conferences like these, is to get information from the authorities - not for journalists to try to debate the politicians or shout their opinions at them.
#458
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Prof of Micro Biology has picked her apart today too.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Collignon...64061697261568
https://mobile.twitter.com/Collignon...64061697261568
The NZ government is torching their economy - but this will suit her as it will mean major state intervention to sort it out - something that fits in with her (and other leaders like her) real agenda
#459
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That would be the best option. Economics 101 shows us that consumption taxes are one of the best, most efficient taxes. Everyone would get to pay it - with the wealthier in effect paying more as they consume more
Winner, winner chicken dinner
Winner, winner chicken dinner
#460
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I was speaking to a scientist I know when all of this started happening. His take on things is that we need to stay at the level we are now for the next six months. Slow the spread enough that we don't run out of beds in ICU's and protect the vulnerable that are currently in total lockdown. If we slow the spread down too much, we'll be locked down for 18 months as the spread will be slower.
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Since Christchurch, the MSM can't get enough of Ardern - with the US MSM being the most sycophantic
The NZ government is torching their economy - but this will suit her as it will mean major state intervention to sort it out - something that fits in with her (and other leaders like her) real agenda
The NZ government is torching their economy - but this will suit her as it will mean major state intervention to sort it out - something that fits in with her (and other leaders like her) real agenda
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I was speaking to a scientist I know when all of this started happening. His take on things is that we need to stay at the level we are now for the next six months. Slow the spread enough that we don't run out of beds in ICU's and protect the vulnerable that are currently in total lockdown. If we slow the spread down too much, we'll be locked down for 18 months as the spread will be slower.
Flatten the curve will have to be the plan for the US and Europe as their borders are too porous.
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Unfortunately I don't see much chance to break away from the far right and back towards the centre. The issue is all this money being dished out is going to need to be paid for, the debt is going to have to be paid down.
Now, the way it should fall is that those that benefited are the ones to pay, but I'm betting the Labor approach will be a tax targeted on those that didn't get made redundant, that still have the well paid jobs. All the far right have to do is be slightly more targeted than this and they will get in.
My guess is they will attempt to push up GST.
Now, the way it should fall is that those that benefited are the ones to pay, but I'm betting the Labor approach will be a tax targeted on those that didn't get made redundant, that still have the well paid jobs. All the far right have to do is be slightly more targeted than this and they will get in.
My guess is they will attempt to push up GST.
#464
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When it started to happen, flatten the curve was the plan. Things have changed. The curve got flatten and we are now on the cusp of eradication. Should Australia behave itself and eradicate it, we can avoid a second wave due to closed borders. This is something Singapore, Hong Kong and China failed to do in time and now they have the second wave.
Flatten the curve will have to be the plan for the US and Europe as their borders are too porous.
Flatten the curve will have to be the plan for the US and Europe as their borders are too porous.
#465
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Choices are going to be have to be made. None of this is easy