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Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by moneypen20
(Post 7381348)
Their history is irrelevant to the case (legally speaking). All Fraser has said is that no one except the jury members know what happened whilst they were deliberating and regardless of what you know or don't know, that information will not be told. What Fraser has done or not done in the past is also completely irrelevant to this post and totally unnecessary for you to mention.
I find your post very unpleasant and would ask that you keep personal comments out of your posts please. Perhaps you should read the BE rules before deciding to post again. If you find it unpleasant ,What i have said about Fraser TOUGH it has been on the forum for the past few years and has been stated by HIM many times,so if you dont like it tell him to stop divulging HIS past on an open forum. I am a law abiding citizen and always have been, I personally find his posts offensive when it comes to anything with the Police or law enforcement officers. BTW i´m sure he can stand up for himself now, I´m sure he has grown up;) |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
This might be a good opportunity for us all to toddle off, have a nice cup of camomile tea, and come back in the morning when everything's back in perspective (which also would have been a good idea on that fateful night in Joondalup).
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Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
[QUOTE=the troubadour;7381402
What do you think you know about this case that was not disclosed in the media i wonder.As you fail to disclose it rather nullifies that statement some what do you not think? QUOTE] A hell of a lot more than you, |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
[QUOTE=Dennis The Menace;7381508]
Originally Posted by the troubadour;7381402
What do you think you know about this case that was not disclosed in the media i wonder.As you fail to disclose it rather nullifies that statement some what do you not think? QUOTE A hell of a lot more than you, |
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[QUOTE=the troubadour;7381589]
Originally Posted by Dennis The Menace
(Post 7381508)
A somewhat irrelative reply and the above statement remains firmly in place. |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by Dennis The Menace
(Post 7381318)
FATALLY TAZERED Thought it wouldn´t be long before you put your view in. I know you are anti-establishment because you spent time in prison as you have admitted before. You were guilty and served your time was that the Police´s fault?
This family are out and out scum just look at their history. I know a bit more about this case and not what has been shown in the media. Please tell me if one of your kids were out at work doing their job and some pissed up idiot took a ¨flying headbutt ¨ which resulted in them being partially paralised and unable to carry out their chosen career you wouldn´t be angry??? I just said that nobody has all the facts. If the police assaulted (notice the if) the guy, no they were not doing their jobs, they were committing a criminal offence. If he was going to taser the guy again, he was out of order as there would have been no need what so ever. If that was the case were his sons supposed to allow this and suffer the possible consequence of his death, although that would be ok because it could be investigated later and put to the proper complaints procedure? That jury must have had a damn good reason to return a not guilty as nobody would do that lightly, not with all the people reacting like on this thread ready to hang them out to dry without even having heard the facts. It would have been easy for them to return a verdict of guilty to appease the public, but maybe they just wanted to see justice done if so, I applaud them. PS. the fact that you think that I should be cautioned by the mods on the site because I don't agree that armed cops shooting a 15 yr old boy is reasonable force is pathetic:rofl: |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by lapin_windstar
(Post 7381377)
I think it's very sad that the officer was paralyzed, but unfortunately, he was part of a group of people that assaulted another group of people in a bar fight.
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Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7382471)
Absolute rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about, the cops were breaking up a brawl. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by fraser
(Post 7382480)
You were there then? Surely if it was a cut and dried as that there would have been a guilty verdict?
It was a cut and dried case the jury got it wrong, they were numpties. Just about everyone manages to worm their way out of jury duty in Perth leaving the dregs. |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7382502)
I could kill a man in front of witnesses and get off if I had a a $200,000 QC defending me, just like they did.
It was a cut and dried case the jury got it wrong, they were numpties. Just about everyone manages to worm their way out of jury duty in Perth leaving the dregs. Come on , that isn't really possible is it now? |
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i am not suprised this family walked free, i have seen how some cops behave, i say some and not all. There was definately a group of cops working in the area that used to like using a lot of force to arrest people, i know for a fact. these were mainly cops in their late 20's early 30's and they would be very heavy handed, it did not take much for them to point a taser gun at someone, i have seen it happen on many occasions.
We do not know all the facts in this case, and if it is being said that the police were heavy handed in their initial attempts to stop the violence it is of no suprise to me. saying that , i cant think of a more violent assault than the one committed by the mcleod boy. Having watched the video of the assault on Const Butcher, i am shocked to see the very poor response from his collegues, they seemed to be standing around and not doing an awful lot which very much goes against the evidence that they were heavy handed. But the fact of the matter is they basically done nothing to stop the boy mcleod launching himself at Const Butcher. There is one cop trying to put someones hands behind his back and the guy just pulls away and walks off. There is only one victim here and it is Const Butcher, the WA Police Service will wash their hands of him, not now, they will let the dust settle first, if he is not able to fulfil his job description then he is of no use to them and they will part company. My own feeling is, had the other cops had recent training in this type of incident then maybe they would have acted differently, it is unfortunate that the training these police officers receive in this type of incident last for 4 weeks, it is very good training they get, but like anyone, skills need to be honed and updated on a regular basis, some, if not all those cops present had not had any training in those types of incidents for several years, if they had, maybe things might have been a bit different. |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by fraser
(Post 7382515)
So I guess your saying you know better about the case than the 12 people who sat on the jury and were presented with all the evidence?
Come on , that isn't really possible is it now? |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7382525)
It is and I do.
Would you like to enlighten me? Seeing as the first you heard of the verdict was on the news. Did you decide the jury were dregs because the had a different opinion to you? |
Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by dribbly cheeks
(Post 7382522)
i am shocked to see the very poor response from his collegues, they seemed to be standing around and not doing an awful lot which very much goes against the evidence that they were heavy handed.
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Re: Cop Bashers Walk Free
Originally Posted by renth
(Post 7382535)
I'd have put a bullet in him. I'm a public servant (firefighter) and we sometimes come up against threats of violence, hell, once we had someone open fire at us with a pistol and if anyone did a flying headbutt like that against one of my crew members I'd grab the axe and start swinging it, no worries.
So it's ok to attack someone with an axe if you think they're being assaulted? That sentence is dripping with irony ;) |
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