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Old Mar 8th 2010 | 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
My point is that it must be a managed strategy, not an ad hoc "let's just see how fast we can grow the population" experiment. Population growth is a long term option, but one which must be carefully maintained.



Poorly worded on my part. Obviously we will keep expanding; my point is that we musn't allow that expansion to become explosive or random.



Same way we're doing it now. Encourage higher birth dates (eg. baby bonus) and the immigration of skilled workers (eg. points-based immigration system). I reckon paid parental leave would be another great incentive.



Yep, very true.



I totally agree. There will come a time when we don't need so many people, which is when we can tighten immigration controls further and discourage population growth.
All good valid points... I think my issue is that the UK's does seem to have been 'explosive and random'... and I still don't see how you control population growth when we keep hearing that 'immigration is good for the economy' and we 'we need more people'.. speaking about the UK there.
 
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Which means the wages are too low... before you jump in and say its because dole is too high, have you ever tried to live on it?
The wages are market rate because they have people doing the work, stuff like cleaning, vegetable picking etc. Problem is most of them are illegal immigrants who can't claim the dole.
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Which means the wages are too low... before you jump in and say its because dole is too high, have you ever tried to live on it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-000-home.html

http://www.closeronline.co.uk/RealLi...er-family.aspx

Shall I continue?
 
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Continue all you want. Have YOU ever tried to raise a family on the dole?. If you have, was it a cushy number, so cushy that you decided not to go back to work?
 
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Why shouldn't I, Toolboy?

But to answer your question:
My wife is British
My son was born there and therefore is British too
I lived there for nearly 10 years
I have family and friends there
My brother is in the British Army and is in the Sangin Valley as I write
I am a big fan of what Britain has done in the world
I want Britain and the British people to be okay

Will that do? There's more if not.
Does your wife, son, family & friends appreciate you calling them a Pom . Or do you just save it for internet forms where you're stirring the pot?
As this is an expat site, would say a lot of the people on here have no right to vote anyone into office in the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by renth
The wages are market rate because they have people doing the work, stuff like cleaning, vegetable picking etc. Problem is most of them are illegal immigrants who can't claim the dole.
That's somewhat my point... cheap people allow shit bosses to get away with shit wages. If the farmers in the UK want to make a living then they need to either mechanize or grow crops that don't rely on paying people shit money.... not use the excuse that we need to import the worlds poor to keep doing crap jobs.
 
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Does your wife, son, family & friends appreciate you calling them a Pom . Or do you just save it for internet forms where you're stirring the pot?
As this is an expat site, would say a lot of the people on here have no right to vote anyone into office in the UK.
What are you babbling on about? Where did I call them Poms?

Most people on here, including me, are Bitiish citizens and have a right to vote in the UK.
 
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Originally Posted by Australia_bound?
Does your wife, son, family & friends appreciate you calling them a Pom . Or do you just save it for internet forms where you're stirring the pot?
As this is an expat site, would say a lot of the people on here have no right to vote anyone into office in the UK.
I can. I'm a British citizen even though I live in Australia and I can register as an overseas voter.
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
Continue all you want. Have YOU ever tried to raise a family on the dole?. If you have, was it a cushy number, so cushy that you decided not to go back to work?
It's not about me. It's about the benefit scroungers that choose not to work because they get more on the dole, or benefits, or entitlements or whatever you wish to call them. What's the point in working if you can get more on the dole?
 
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It's not about me. It's about the benefit scroungers that choose not to work because they get more on the dole, or benefits, or entitlements or whatever you wish to call them. What's the point in working if you can get more on the dole?
Whoever wins the election is going to have to slash benefits so that people are better off working, even if it means picking carrots on the fens or cleaning offices. There will be a rude awakening for a whole segment of the population IMO.
 
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
It's not about me. It's about the benefit scroungers that choose not to work because they get more on the dole, or benefits, or entitlements or whatever you wish to call them. What's the point in working if you can get more on the dole?

The 'official' UK jobless is about 2.5million. The number of inactive people of working age is over 8million.

What do you suggest they should all start doing?. Does the UK actually have eight million jobs just lying around waiting to be filled?.

Does it really need to be STILL importing people given those numbers?
 
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
The 'official' UK jobless is about 2.5million. The number of inactive people of working age is over 8million.

What do you suggest they should all start doing?. Does the UK actually have eight million jobs just lying around waiting to be filled?.

Does it really need to be STILL importing people given those numbers?
They should round up all the illegals and throw them out and free up their low paying jobs for those on the dole. Problem is this could violate their "human rights".
 
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Originally Posted by renth
They should round up all the illegals and throw them out and free up their low paying jobs for those on the dole. Problem is this could violate their "human rights".
I doubt there is any 'could' about it. I'm always staggered that people who are in the country, any country, illegally are allowed to challenge their deportation in court. Why are they not just chucked out ASAP?.
 
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I doubt there is any 'could' about it. I'm always staggered that people who are in the country, any country, illegally are allowed to challenge their deportation in court. Why are they not just chucked out ASAP?.
Exactly, just like here in Australia, straight to the airport.
 


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