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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by alipally
(Post 5621876)
Not in Turkey!!! Been said.. no repurcusions
Turkey is a secular nation though, where the rights and privileges of the citizenry in a (reasonably) democratic nation are placed higher than the dogmatic religious views of of any one particular group. In Turkey, the secular government has the firm support of the military, though in recent times more 'fundamentalist' groups have been active in attempting to move away from secular rule towards majority islamic sharia law. The military have said in no uncertain terms that they would not support this move, and would take action to preserve secularism for all Turkish citizens. How this might change in the future is anyone's guess however... S |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Jesus was a second fix carpenter from nazareth oh shit i'm gonna get stoned:eek:
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by painter man
(Post 5623919)
Jesus was a second fix carpenter from nazareth oh shit i'm gonna get stoned:eek:
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by painter man
(Post 5623919)
Jesus was a second fix carpenter from nazareth oh shit i'm gonna get stoned:eek:
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 5624073)
I wonder if he would've passed the TRA? :confused:
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WORD IS HE WAS A BIT ROUGTH AROUND THE EDGES ,HE WAS CRAP AT SLINGING DOORS ON.
PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR DIVINE INTERVENTION FROM HIM ABOVE TO HAVE PASSED HIS TRA |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 5623553)
Turkey is a secular nation though, where the rights and privileges of the citizenry in a (reasonably) democratic nation are placed higher than the dogmatic religious views of of any one particular group.
In Turkey, the secular government has the firm support of the military, though in recent times more 'fundamentalist' groups have been active in attempting to move away from secular rule towards majority islamic sharia law. The military have said in no uncertain terms that they would not support this move, and would take action to preserve secularism for all Turkish citizens. How this might change in the future is anyone's guess however... S With reference to the post regarding 'bored housewives'... I wish!!:p:rofl:;) |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Upon her return to Britain Gillian Gibbons said:
"It was terrible, I was regularly raped and tortured, I had to eat rats and all my possessions were stolen. And thats why I left Liverpool." |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by fraser
(Post 5632786)
Upon her return to Britain Gillian Gibbons said:
"It was terrible, I was regularly raped and tortured, I had to eat rats and all my possessions were stolen. And thats why I left Liverpool." |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by fraser
(Post 5632786)
Upon her return to Britain Gillian Gibbons said:
"It was terrible, I was regularly raped and tortured, I had to eat rats and all my possessions were stolen. And thats why I left Liverpool." |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by 232Bar
(Post 5633748)
I thought she returned to England - not 'Britain' ;)
Was last time I looked. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by 232Bar
(Post 5633748)
I thought she returned to England - not 'Britain' ;)
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634004)
One and the same ;)
Britain (Great Britain) = A political term describing England, Scotland and Wales UK (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) = Great Britain + N.I. England comprises 84% of the population of the UK, and as a result, most of the world assumes that "British" people are English unless otherwise stated. Obviously, if I was Welsh, Scottish, or from N.I, I may be less than impressed with that assumption ? Let's ask the audience.... If you are English, would you mind someone referring to you as Scottish or Welsh ? Always makes for a good discussion, this one :-) |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by @boy
(Post 5634053)
You would think there would be a lot of disagreement on that statement, surely ?
Britain (Great Britain) = A political term describing England, Scotland and Wales UK (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) = Great Britain + N.I. England comprises 84% of the population of the UK, and as a result, most of the world assumes that "British" people are English unless otherwise stated. Obviously, if I was Welsh, Scottish, or from N.I, I may be less than impressed with that assumption ? Let's ask the audience.... If you are English, would you mind someone referring to you as Scottish or Welsh ? Always makes for a good discussion, this one :-) England governs, owns the land, wipe there noses in times of strife and dishes out a good spanking to militants like William Wallace when they get choppsy. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634071)
No discussion to be had mate.
England governs, owns the land, wipe there noses in times of strife and dishes out a good spanking to militants like William Wallace when they get choppsy. It never ceases to amaze me how much confusion there is on this subject from citizens of the UK. Here is a cracking article for you all to read :D England is Not a Country http://geography.about.com/od/politi...englandnot.htm There are eight accepted criteria used to determine whether an entity is an independent country or not. A country need only fail on one of the eight criteria to not meet the definition of independent country status. England does not meet all eight criteria; it fails on six of the eight criteria... |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634071)
No discussion to be had mate.
England governs, owns the land, wipe there noses in times of strife and dishes out a good spanking to militants like William Wallace when they get choppsy. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634071)
England governs, owns the land, wipe there noses in times of strife and dishes out a good spanking to militants like William Wallace when they get choppsy.
Hence the change of the title in 1921 from "United Kingdon of Great Britain and Ireland" to "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". It did take approx 700 years of "choppsiness" to finally give the norman invaders the boot though....... Could have done it a bit quicker, but being Irish, we were probably out partying too much :-) Long live Choppsiness !!!!! |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634004)
One and the same ;)
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by 232Bar
(Post 5634177)
I lived in England, not Great Britain, Britain, The United kingdom etc therefore as far as I am concerned I am English, not British
You can only be a citizen of a sovereign nation (in this case, "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", commonly referred to as the UK, United Kingdom or Britain). You cannot be a citizen of England, although you can certainly originate from there and be very proud of that fact. A good mate of mine when asked where he is from always declares "London" rather than England, UK or anything else, such is his sense of identity with that city :-) |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by alipally
(Post 5622002)
'Tis true.
Religion is an indoctrination... mostly introduced by parents, who were introduced by their parents.... etc.... Pinching a quote from Richard Dawkins here (I'm sure he won't mind !) "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion." |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 5634086)
A Jock governs the UK. A wanker of a Jock, but a Jock none the less.
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Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by @boy
(Post 5634115)
Didn't work so well on trying to keep the roughly 4 million choppsy Irish in shape !!
Hence the change of the title in 1921 from "United Kingdon of Great Britain and Ireland" to "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". It did take approx 700 years of "choppsiness" to finally give the norman invaders the boot though....... Could have done it a bit quicker, but being Irish, we were probably out partying too much :-) Long live Choppsiness !!!!! Granted those south of the border aren't English, but all those decendants of the protestant settlers in Northern Ireland are. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by 232Bar
(Post 5634177)
I lived in England, not Great Britain, Britain, The United kingdom etc therefore as far as I am concerned I am English, not British
But if I'd lived near Glasgow, I would still have lived in England. Just the province which we know as Scotland. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634272)
But what I'm saying mate, when all the fog has cleared, every 'Briton' is English.
On the other hand, every Englishman certainly is a Briton. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by @boy
(Post 5634251)
The love of Religion is the root of all evil :-)
Pinching a quote from Richard Dawkins here (I'm sure he won't mind !) "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion." "Never bite your toe nails, whilst taking a p!ss" :D |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by @boy
(Post 5634301)
err no... Every Briton is a citizen of the UK, but not every Briton is English (ask a Welshman !!)
On the other hand, every Englishman certainly is a Briton. There's no confusion here. Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland - they're simply regions of England known as the United Kingdom. They have been for centuries. All of the heel digging anti English spat is simply inherited from generation to generation as a fight for identity. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by @boy
(Post 5634053)
Let's ask the audience.... If you are English, would you mind someone referring to you as Scottish or Welsh ? but of course I wouldn't mind! :lol: It's not hard to correct someone for a simple mistake like that is it? Chances are they're American anyway, in which case, they think Scotland and Wales are in Canada and the Antarctic, respectively. ;) |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Dom the Pom
(Post 5634293)
Same here, near Bath.
But if I'd lived near Glasgow, I would still have lived in England. Just the province which we know as Scotland. |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by 232Bar
(Post 5634622)
Rebuild the wall, re-dig the dyke - let's have England just as England, Scotland as Scotland, and the funny place with the sheep...well, whatever :D:thumbsup:
The regions are already a massive drain on the coffers of the exchequer. England would certainly profit from devolving from the union. S |
Re: Apparently the prophet is...
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
(Post 5634628)
Yes, I agree. Lets split up the union, then we can laugh when the Scots come crawling back for aid when the oil has run out.
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