Originally Posted by alipally (Post 5615682)

Thought that you might like to know that she has been sentenced to 15 days imprisonment and deportation... the country is in uproar as they think that this is too lenient! the journalists are guessing that she will be deported over the weekend before the end of her sentence ( she has already served 5 days)

Religion never did anyone any good IMO... I'm an atheist for a very good reason... It beggars belief that anyone could believe in a higher power who could possibly condone such behaviour and treatment of others!
This is the work of men who are keen to keep a country oppressed under a regime that suits them under the guise of Allah giving devine instruction....


Pah! complete and utter Bull
I hate religion, and I truly believe that it is the root of all of the really evil acts carried out in the world today.

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 5615757)

Good post. Most religion is just a form of social control, usually based on scaring people who are afraid of death into believing that if they are good little boys and girls in this life, then they will luck out and get a special endless life of pleasure and happiness when they die.

It feeds on ignorance and fear.


S

Originally Posted by Wendy (Post 5604069)

If the kids chose the name, then why is she being held responsible? :confused:

Surely the kids should be taking the blame. :huh:
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Originally Posted by brissydeb (Post 5615773)

Totally agree. It seems a bit extreme to say the least,poor woman!

Debbie

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615826)

If the kids chose the name, and she is their teacher, she's in charge... and given she's in Saudi, she should be well aware of the name and the connotation, shouldn't she? :confused:

My MIL worked in Saudi for some time delivering babies... (by post,,, haha) and she was super aware of what the rules were.

Surely this teacher was not that stupid? I bet the Saudi people are thinking this too. Stupid move on her part and even more ridiculous on theirs ... but then ignorance is no excuse under the law, right?

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 5615830)

She's in Sudan not Saudi.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615836)

Sorry, wrong country. Thanks.


But the point is still the same, regardless... If you're going to work in a country, wouldn't you be well aware of the rules?

Same as my MIL knowing she wasn't allowed to drive herself and that she couldn't appear in public uncovered... and had to wear the big black thing with her eyes peeping through.

Shouldn't a respected teacher, in a position of authority know the law of the country?

I think so.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615836)

Sorry, wrong country. Thanks.


But the point is still the same, regardless... If you're going to work in a country, wouldn't you be well aware of the rules?

Same as my MIL knowing she wasn't allowed to drive herself and that she couldn't appear in public uncovered... and had to wear the big black thing with her eyes peeping through.

Shouldn't a respected teacher, in a position of authority know the law of the country?

I think so.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5603968)

a teddy bear...


'It is seen as an insult to Islam to attempt to make an image of the Prophet Muhammad.'



Just when you think you live in a world of PC gone insane, spare a thought for these people. :blink::blink::blink:

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 5615852)

and that she was going to be buggered whichever way she went.


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Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5616210)

I suppose a lot of hoohaa about the naming of a bear by children takes the worlds focus off the Sudanese governments treatment of people in Darfur.

Is the use of Mohammed as name only banned/frowned upon when it's not a person because their are a lot of men/boys around the world named Mohammed. When is the name allowed? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5615546)

No it's not. It's a bloody stupid post.

Originally Posted by 232Bar (Post 5616258)

Well that's me told - I'll just agree with everything you say from now on then eh?

Originally Posted by LauraC (Post 5616210)

I suppose a lot of hoohaa about the naming of a bear by children takes the worlds focus off the Sudanese governments treatment of people in Darfur.

Is the use of Mohammed as name only banned/frowned upon when it's not a person because their are a lot of men/boys around the world named Mohammed. When is the name allowed? Not being snarky, I really would like to know.

Originally Posted by brissydeb (Post 5616113)

Okay, reverse this situation in the UK. Would it receive the same publicity and sentence for the person involved? Eh NO!! Just goes to show that the world is pandering to certain religions etc for fear of being called racist?

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5616274)

Fab! :thumbsup: You were a pushover. :lol:



Are you referring to a specific case or is this just an opinion? I don't mean obey the law of the country you're in, I think I said you should be aware of the law of the country you're in. Those are two separate things...
If you are aware, and come on, a teacher must be aware of the laws and religion in Sudan for sure, then you are aware that you might be breaking laws or offending people.

I agree their treatment of the situation was OTT but is she thick or something?

Yay, let's call a Teddy bear Mohammed... Hmmm, do you think I should bounce this off my Head of Department first as that is a special name....
Na, no bother. If they don't like it, they'll just cut me head off.
Sorted. :lol:

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616293)

I started addressing your points, but like 232Bar can't be arsed so stopped typing.

"You're talking sh!te" covers it.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5616297)

Good post from you Dom, as usual. :)

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616293)

I started addressing your points, but like 232Bar can't be arsed so stopped typing.

"You're talking sh!te" covers it.

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616314)

Well it's nice to know you read my posts. I don't usually give yours the time of day. :D

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5616396)

:confused: Surely you have though, otherwise how would an intelligent person be able to respond to a post, even if they then decided not to bother?

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5616396)

:confused: Surely you have though, otherwise how would an intelligent person be able to respond to a post, even if they then decided not to bother?

Originally Posted by Dom the Pom (Post 5616544)

I said 'usually' though sweet heart.

Keep up. ;)

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5616577)

Sorry, couldn't be arsed to read your post that thoroughly, honey.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5616717)

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh! She shoots, she scores!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5617074)

Good article. Going back to the teacher though, I had no idea she was 50. I assumed she was a lot younger and maybe less aware of the Muslim system. She really should have known better, regardless of whether the rest of us think the punishment barbaric.

Originally Posted by TiddlyPom (Post 5617079)

Perhaps the real truth is that age doesn't make you wiser or more clever...


:lol:

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 5617211)

How often do we read on this forum about how foriegners should respect the laws of their host country?....or 'embrace the culture'?

Or does that just apply to immigrants to the UK?

G

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5617228)

It has already been discussed G.:D

Originally Posted by Swerv-o (Post 5615852)

that she was going to be buggered whichever way she went.


S

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5617280)

And I thought the lashings were bad enough!

Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 5617488)

You couldn't be arsed to read the thread either :lol:

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 5617211)

How often do we read on this forum about how foriegners should respect the laws of their host country?....or 'embrace the culture'?

Or does that just apply to immigrants to the UK?

G

Originally Posted by sammyg (Post 5618563)

Yea, let's all 'embrace the culture of islam' - must rush out and buy myself something to cover me in head-to-toe...:zzz. Must say, i see many muslims covered up here - not exactly embracing our culture now are they???

So "G" (:o) do you believe it is right that she should now be executed - i kid you not - just seen it now on c4 news.

Pathetic, intolerant scum.:curse:

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 5618657)

What is happening in Sudan has very little to do with religion.....it is a pretty blatant attenpt to create a smokescreen to divert us all from the political situation in Darfur...we should not fall for it.

Knee jerk responses are unhelpful.

..and back to the earlier point...if someone is going to lve in a muslim country they should respect that culture.....just the same as we expect if muslims come to live here.

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