Oh dear. I am not trying to offend you or anyone else for that matter. You have no idea to what extent my personal experience on this topic extends. I have disagreed or "rubbished" peoples opinions as you say - absolutely I have because whether you like it or not, I will take a stand against racism in whatever shape, form or drivel it appears and will continue to do so for I believe that it is fundamentally wrong to judge any individual or group of people because of the colour of their skin, the history of their race or the mistakes of their relatives or ancestors.

You can call me stupid, you can question my opinion forming habits and you can spout tripe til the stolen sheep come home - it worries me not. Now do me a favour and go annoy your neighbours with some loud music or something cos your really boring me and I refuse to be your source of entertainment for a moment longer.

Remind me again, which opinion is it you have?

Both.

I am not judging our ancestors for what they did wrong. Just acknowledging that they did so. There's a difference. But I wouldnt expect you to understand that. Next?

FFS, So you are prepared to acknowledge that 'our ancestors' did wrong, but seem totally incapable of accepting that some of the current behaviour of Aborigines is 'wrong' without rolling out a stream of 'mitigating circumstances' to justify their behaviour.

Listen love, you can misinterpret what I have said all you like. The rest of the intelligent people on this forum will read what I actually said and make up their own minds. As for you - you need to get out more. I'm off for a wave. Later!

"The rest of the intelligent people"... you're including me in that? I'm flattered.

Read your own comments.. you are an apologist.

And what?

Random word thread now?

Welll it didnt really warrant a rational response now did it!

Well having seen the standard of your posts so far this morning I'm not convinced you're capable of a rational response at the moment... go and have a lie down love. You will feel so much better afterwards.

Awww thank you I might just do that. I have had a bit of a headache for a day or so now, and this funny fuzzy incomprehensible thing going on in front of my eyes.........................oh sorry - my mistake, its just the stuff you write!

Oh the plus side, surfs good today!

Not unexpected but you've completely missed the point. Maybe someone in your house can read my first post back to you and tell you the main points.

Something I often see also is you have absolutely no reason to hate them. Nothing has ever been done to you by them. Have you ever had a white person do you wrong (I'd say that would be a 100% yes)? So why not hate the whites - same sort of neanderthal logic. I can't say that I've ever met anyone that has a legitimate grievance against the indigenous - I've certainly asked most who have your sort of opinion but none have any reason. I have a number of Zimbabwean friends who have recounted horrific stories and shown me the pictures that gives them reason to hate but yet they don't. But for some reason you who have had a relatively safe life can't seem to overcome such bigotry and hatred... It's an unthinking mob mentality that thinks like that.

Is one of the reason you moved to australia because you could spew such filth and know few would oppose such a view?

Oh for God sake, read the bloody posts. It's ****ing typical of your type that you read what you want to see.

I don't hate them. I've had no dealings with them. About the worst thing I've said is that they, as a community, have serious issues. Don't you think that raping your kids, knocking shit out of your relatives, tremendous problems with drink and drugs and problems with street crime are serious issues?

If you think that's me saying I "hate them" then its no surprise your Australian friends have dropped you.

So what you're saying is they have rapped your relatives, kicked your ass... or are you following the mob and parroting what they keep regurgitating. Or! you could say that white people are just as prone to rapping, beating... and see that this is a society as a whole problem that includes whites and blacks equally... Obviously they're serious problems... nothing like stating the obvious... but they're problems that transcend all of society.

Lets try this another way. If the people in the communities that you grew up in kept saying all you would amount to is a drop kick idiot all you life and treated you as such (like how you treat and talk about indigenous now) what are the chances you'd end up like that? A real good chance - right. But if the same people always affirmed you and said you were a great person destined to be... your chances of "success" in life increase exponentially. Now do you see where I'm trying to go with this? It's that basic respect for others thing I've been saying.

On a personal level I've had my cars broken into and deliberately vandalised on numerous occasions, surrounded by young adults intent on robbing my wife and I, witnessed some extreme violence to others... All perpetrated by white people. Should I take your stance and say all whites are dead beats... You'd think I was an idiot if I did - or at least you should. Sound familiar...

[QUOTE=TiddlyPom;8745381]Wow. Really? You think that it has nothing to being stolen from parents, bought up by whites, told they were dirty and unloveable, abused and degraded for being black, arrested, subject to constant racist government policies, had their land grabbed and got given back shitholes to live in where basic human rights such as running water and electricity are not even provided, etc etc etc.
So when they're drunk, high, disenfranchised, dirty, suffering from malnutrition, high child abuse, high violence ... you think they just do all that stuff because it's an excuse?


Um well this post smacks of self righteousness . Your have post is true except for the excuse bit. I really think these days it is. How long do we keep looking back? I wonder have you ever lived amongst them? I can remember years ago new houses being built for them and by them, having in put to every aspect of the houses. They lasted 3 months, before the floors were ripped up and set a light.
Not all Aborigines are drunks, etc, just like all whites are not perfect people , but their culture really does clash with ours, no easy answers but you know that hate breeds hate and many of todays young Aborigines talk about 230 years ago as if they were there! Most whites that live amongst them don't like them. Right or wrong? Who knows .