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80% will not be enough

Old Sep 13th 2021, 3:52 am
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if the experience of Singapore is anything to go by, this is probably why Queensland is aiming to exceed an 80% vaccination rate before the virus gains traction in the state https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...rmal/100450154
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if the experience of Singapore is anything to go by, this is probably why Queensland is aiming to exceed an 80% vaccination rate before the virus gains traction in the state https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...rmal/100450154
Did you read the article? Of course its enough. The vaccines are not designed to prevent people from catching Covid (if only they were). They are designed to stop serious illness. Like the article says, Singapore recorded its 58th death (only 58, ha ha ha) in an 80 year old partially vaccinated man with diabetes and heart problems.

Life is more than Covid. Of course 80% is enough.

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if the experience of Singapore is anything to go by, this is probably why Queensland is aiming to exceed an 80% vaccination rate before the virus gains traction in the state https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...rmal/100450154
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Dr Leong said 80 per cent was "not good enough because it can still burden the hospital system very significantly and there will be too many excess deaths".

"The numbers are mind-boggling, given what's possible over the next few weeks," he said.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison set a vaccination target as part of his four-step opening plan for Australia, with phase C triggered when double vaccination reached 80 per cent.

However, Australia's threshold is actually lower because it is based on the population aged over 16.

Singapore's threshold is based on the total population.
i for one am very glad that Anna and the doc are aiming for higher than 80%.
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Default Re: 80% will not be enough

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if the experience of Singapore is anything to go by, this is probably why Queensland is aiming to exceed an 80% vaccination rate before the virus gains traction in the state https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...rmal/100450154
It will be enough
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i for one am very glad that Anna and the doc are aiming for higher than 80%.
Have you asked the Palette and the Granny how they intend on getting anywhere near 80% in Qld? Remember this is Queensland.
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Even with 90 pct plus vaccinated, we are still going to get Covid mass outbreaks...... Here comes MU,.... Vaccine resistant and in 50 states in the USA and gaining traction in Europe.

The mutations will keep coming in, they will get more contagious and spread via imports if not via people.


So either learn to live with it, or stay in lockdown forever. Covid is here to stay.

How Do Variants Arise? Mu Variant, With Potential to Evade Vaccines, Found in All 50 States (newsweek.com)




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Over 600 people have died having had double vaccines in the UK from Covid since the roll out began in January..

. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ryand2july2021
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Over 600 people have died having had double vaccines in the UK from Covid since the roll out began in January..

. https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ryand2july2021
600? Or 256?

​​​​​There's 30,000 cases a day. Shows the effectiveness of the vaccine.
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Originally Posted by Brisbannite View Post
i for one am very glad that Anna and the doc are aiming for higher than 80%.
I think enough is when everyone who wants it can get it.
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I think enough is when everyone who wants it can get it.
Surely that should be "when everyone who wants it has had both doses more than 21 days ago"?
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600? Or 256?

​​​​​There's 30,000 cases a day. Shows the effectiveness of the vaccine.
Correct re the 30K a day, the other stat that keeps escaping the public is 70pct of deaths in the UK at least have been in the over 80 age group with pre existing conditions like Dementia, heart conditions and generally speaking people in the last stages of life and mostly in nursing homes.


640 to be exact and 11,500 with single dose vaccine.


Cant find any official stats on long Covid, most of those reports stop after 12 weeks. It is also looking like AZ is the most effective vaccine for the MU variant.



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Surely that should be "when everyone who wants it has had both doses more than 21 days ago"?
Haven't we passed the everyone who wants it? Maybe not for the 12-18 year olds as ATAGI hasn't approved AZ for that group yet. They should though. But for the +18's, there is no longer an excuse.
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Correct re the 30K a day, the other stat that keeps escaping the public is 70pct of deaths in the UK at least have been in the over 80 age group with pre existing conditions like Dementia, heart conditions and generally speaking people in the last stages of life and mostly in nursing homes.


640 to be exact and 11,500 with single dose vaccine.


Cant find any official stats on long Covid, most of those reports stop after 12 weeks. It is also looking like AZ is the most effective vaccine for the MU variant.


458 right? According to that graph.
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458 right? According to that graph.
'Plus the 182 pre 21 days...., They supposedly had some protection.

Thing is Beoz most of these victims are over 80 years old and have pre existing chronic conditions. How does this virus continuously strike the Nursing homes. Where is the focus on protecting the most vulnerable?



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