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mpgrewal Jan 9th 2010 2:59 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by WillBlack (Post 8233533)
If Indians don't like the risk of being victims of crime, they can not travel to Australia or leave Australia permanently. Similarly naturalized Australians of Indian descent.

Australians of Indian descent with no right to Indian residency should drop the Indian ethnicism and consider how to improve security for all Australians not just their ethnic gang.

So you mean only voilent people, criminals and thugs can live happily in Australia, right? All others who complain of being attacked should leave and let the gangs party.Is it?

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 3:00 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8233522)
Another example of why bashers are not arrested.


http://www.theage.com.au/national/ma...0110-m0b4.html
The alleged attacker has been charged with intentionally causing serious injury, recklessly causing serious injury and other assault-related matters.

He was released on bail.


Now this person attacked innocents with machette. They did a brave job by catching him. And what police did, released him. WOW...

He was released on bail.

Means that the courts are sure he will attend his court hearing and the police are sure they know where to find him if he does not. He has to pay for his own upkeep at least until sentencing.

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 3:02 pm

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Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8233551)
So you mean only voilent people, criminals and thugs can live happily in Australia, right? All others who complain of being attacked should leave and let the gangs party.Is it?

No. So you mean that only Indians in Australia are to be made safe?

mpgrewal Jan 9th 2010 3:07 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by WillBlack (Post 8233557)
No. So you mean that only Indians in Australia are to be made safe?

No, all peace loving citizens should be safe. Laws should take "petty crimes" seriously and in order to save costs dump these criminals into dirty rooms instead pampering them in comfy jails. So that criminals fear jails not be mesmerized towards jails.

mpgrewal Jan 9th 2010 3:09 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by WillBlack (Post 8233552)
He was released on bail.

Means that the courts are sure he will attend his court hearing and the police are sure they know where to find him if he does not. He has to pay for his own upkeep at least until sentencing.

Oh ok.. Sorry, I thought bail means he's released unconditionally.

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 3:17 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8233570)
No, all peace loving citizens should be safe. Laws should take "petty crimes" seriously and in order to save costs dump these criminals into dirty rooms instead pampering them in comfy jails. So that criminals fear jails not be mesmerized towards jails.

Conviction for petty crimes often result in mandatory community service orders:
http://www.justice.tas.gov.au/commun...service_orders

Knife crimes are not petty.

mpgrewal Jan 9th 2010 3:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 8233027)
I read recently how much it costs per day to keep a young offender in custody. The costs are staggering! How exactly do you propose we pay for the upkeep? Taxes would become astonomical with less services to the general population because all the resources would be going to keep these people in prison for 10+ years..

Why not outsource the jails to Central Africa? That way we can keep down running costs (save 80% AUD at least) and make sure we have more room for offenders.

ozzieeagle Jan 9th 2010 3:25 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8233616)
Why not outsource the jails to Central Africa? That way we can keep down running costs (save 80% AUD at least).


Hmmm and within 100 years probably have one of the worlds wealthiest countries in Central Africa.

Not a bad idea.... Penal colonies seem to have a good track record so far.

ABCDiamond Jan 9th 2010 3:25 pm

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Some easy to understand figures

Assault Rates per 10,000 people in Melbourne 2008-09
  • 285 reported cases of robbery and assault against every 10,000 Indians
  • 263 reported cases of robbery and assault against every 10,000 all nationalities


Murder Rates: per 100,000 population
  • New Delhi, India: 83 murders per 100,000 population
  • Melbourne, Australia : 7.4 murders per 100,000 population
  • Australia: 1.6 murders per 100,000 population

WillBlack Jan 9th 2010 4:01 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8233624)
Melbourne, Australia : 7.4 murders per 100,000 population
Australia: 1.6 murders per 100,000 population

Melbourne needs an extra good bulldozing.

Would you post rates for other Australian cities please?

mpgrewal Jan 9th 2010 4:04 pm

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I am rather interested in seeing how many such crimes were resolved. Crimes do occur everwhere, agreed! But the critical stat for the reputation of the authorities is "how much %age they resolved"

Vash the Stampede Jan 9th 2010 4:14 pm

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Well, well, well, what do we have here...?
Two men believed to be employed by an Indian-born contract worker found stabbed and burnt in rural NSW have had their passports seized at Sydney Airport, Fairfax reports.

Ranjodh Singh's partially burnt body was found beside Wilga Road, Willbriggie, in the Riverina area of south-west NSW on December 29.

The 25-year-old seasonal worker had been living in Wagga Wagga and was visiting Griffith at the time of his death.

Two men, believed to be Indian seasonal workers employed by Mr Singh, were arrested at Sydney airport's departure lounge last Monday as they were about to board a flight to Nepal via Singapore, Fairfax reported.

The pair were questioned at Mascot police station but were later released without charge after being forced to hand in their passports.

Detectives believe Mr Singh may have been murdered in a fight over unpaid wages at a Christmas party two days before his murder.

A post-mortem examination revealed his throat had been slashed and he had suffered multiple stab wounds before being bound and then set alight in an effort to conceal his identity, Fairfax reported.
(Source).

Racist attack? No. And the suspects... are Indian.

Hutch Jan 9th 2010 4:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8233689)
Racist attack? No. And the suspects... are Indian.

I posted this on the other thread, but I think it bears repeating ...

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

Vash the Stampede Jan 9th 2010 4:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Hutch (Post 8233712)
I posted this on the other thread, but I think it bears repeating ...

http://imgur.com/EzYwS.jpg

It certainly deserves a wider audience.

ABCDiamond Jan 9th 2010 4:40 pm

Re: 2nd Indian found dead
 

Originally Posted by WillBlack (Post 8233668)
Melbourne needs an extra good bulldozing.

Would you post rates for other Australian cities please?

I'll be checking those as I go along :thumbup: Some are harder to locate the 'accurate' figures.

But I get the feeling that Melbourne is the highest.


I have just located Brisbane figures for 2008-09 ....
  • Queensland 449 assaults per 100,000 (NOTE 100,000)
  • South Eastern Region 400 assaults per 100,000
  • Brisbane Central 1,820 assaults per 100,000
My region is 256 assaults per 100,000 :thumbup: No wonder I like it here ;)

Compare to Melbourne's adjusted rates to 100,000
Assault Rates per 100,000 people in Melbourne 2008-09
2,850 reported cases of robbery and assault against every 100,000 Indians
2,630 reported cases of robbery and assault against every 100,000 all nationalities

Melbourne shows robbery and assault together.
Brisbane shows robbery separate to assault.
However...
  • Brisbane Robbery = 76 per 100,000
  • South Eastern Region = 37 per 100,000
  • QLD robbery = 21 per 100,000


Note:

Crime in Queensland 2008
Victims who knew the offender:
  • 55% Homicide and related offences.
  • 49% Assaults recorded by Queensland police.
  • 64% Sexual assault victims.
  • 21% Kidnapping/ abduction victims
  • 13% Robbery victims



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