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Old Mar 8th 2010, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by Sally Simpson
Anyone else find it interesting that Vash has yet to re-appear on this thread?
I expect a misty eyed oratory on the Australian multicultural miracle shortly!
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Old Mar 8th 2010, 5:05 am
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I expect a misty eyed oratory on the Australian multicultural miracle shortly!
all of it completely paraphrased from Wikipedia of course
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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I said that it sounded like drivel, and to a Europeans ears it does. There seems to be almost no start or end to any of the words and whole sentences just blur by in a stream of odd noises.

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you meant it sounds like drivel to your ears...

just sounds like another language to me...

I've heard aboriginal languages spoken many a time.

Some of the languages from northern australia have have a couple of similar words to indonesian ... in particular a reference to a dutch/white person... shows the indonesians were telling indigenous Aussies about the dutch a few hundred years ago..
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Originally Posted by copa
you meant it sounds like drivel to your ears...

just sounds like another language to me...

I've heard aboriginal languages spoken many a time.

Some of the languages from northern australia have have a couple of similar words to indonesian ... in particular a reference to a dutch/white person... shows the indonesians were telling indigenous Aussies about the dutch a few hundred years ago..
Yep drivel to my ears... which are obviously not as attuned as yours. Good for you.
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Originally Posted by copa
Some of the languages from northern australia have have a couple of similar words to indonesian ... in particular a reference to a dutch/white person.
Which translates into English as "white ******s". I hear it every time I visit Broome - "You white ******s, you stole our land".
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Which translates into English as "white ******s". I hear it every time I visit Broome - "You white ******s, you stole our land".
I suppose technically that would be correct.
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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
I saw the program. Aboriginal languages sound very strange to me, but I wouldn't use the word "drivel." Quite apart from being immensely subjective, it's also culturally insensitive.

I know Poms struggle with muliculturalism, but you could at least try to make an effort.
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Default Re: “aborigines,” ??

Originally Posted by renth
Which translates into English as "white ******s". I hear it every time I visit Broome - "You white ******s, you stole our land".
Yes, but they weren't really doing a lot with it
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I suppose technically that would be correct.
Not really, under the Aboriginal beliefs, no one can “own” the land, the land owns the people. So by their own belief system, it’s impossible for anyone to steel if from them.

Besides, they are originally from Indonesia; they just got here a long time ago. And after 40,000 years haven’t done much, look how much other civilisations have done in much less time, in Europe, Asia, South America.

A lot of countries have been occupied and colonised throughout history, most people got over it and got on with life. I think the Aborigines of today need to build a bridge and get over it, they need to move on and do something with their life.

And for any Australian, or actually anyone living here who thinks it’s terrible that their land was “stolen”, then why don’t you give up your piece of land to them and head back to your homeland, after all... you just bought stolen property. Hypocrites.
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Originally Posted by canadaeh
Not really, under the Aboriginal beliefs, no one can “own” the land, the land owns the people. So by their own belief system, it’s impossible for anyone to steel if from them.

Besides, they are originally from Indonesia; they just got here a long time ago. And after 40,000 years haven’t done much, look how much other civilisations have done in much less time, in Europe, Asia, South America.

A lot of countries have been occupied and colonised throughout history, most people got over it and got on with life. I think the Aborigines of today need to build a bridge and get over it, they need to move on and do something with their life.

And for any Australian, or actually anyone living here who thinks it’s terrible that their land was “stolen”, then why don’t you give up your piece of land to them and head back to your homeland, after all... you just bought stolen property. Hypocrites.


We are all originally from Africa.

I think your comment "40,000 years and [they] haven’t done much" shows a misunderstanding of the culture of Indigenous Australians.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar


We are all originally from Africa.

I think your comment "40,000 years and [they] haven’t done much" shows a misunderstanding of the culture of Indigenous Australians.
I watched a programme on the box about the lack of native Australian development over hundreds of years. The theory that the programme was pushing is it's all down to wind. Apparently, the kind of wind that they have in Australia is particularly good at stripping the soil of it's nutients and blowing it out to sea. This meant that settled farming was never an option for them so their culture continued to be based on a hunter gatherer nomadic lifestyle. In my opinion their culture is more advanced than ours because at least theirs it's sustainable.
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Originally Posted by paulry
I watched a programme on the box about the lack of native Australian development over hundreds of years. The theory that the programme was pushing is it's all down to wind. Apparently, the kind of wind that they have in Australia is particularly good at stripping the soil of it's nutients and blowing it out to sea. This meant that settled farming was never an option for them so their culture continued to be based on a hunter gatherer nomadic lifestyle. In my opinion their culture is more advanced than ours because at least theirs it's sustainable.
Indeed. Sustainability is something Westernised countries will increasingly need get to grips with, we cannot simply continue to exploit the earth for financial gain.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Indeed. Sustainability is something Westernised countries will increasingly need get to grips with, we cannot simply continue to exploit the earth for financial gain.
It's amazing just how much of the earth has been raped in the short time we have had the capacity to do so on a big scale. Another few decades like this and we may be too late to fix it.
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Originally Posted by paulry
I watched a programme on the box about the lack of native Australian development over hundreds of years. The theory that the programme was pushing is it's all down to wind. Apparently, the kind of wind that they have in Australia is particularly good at stripping the soil of it's nutients and blowing it out to sea. This meant that settled farming was never an option for them so their culture continued to be based on a hunter gatherer nomadic lifestyle. In my opinion their culture is more advanced than ours because at least theirs it's sustainable.
New South Wales isn't called that for nothing mate... its because large parts of it look just like South Wales. It's not a barren, wind swept, desert.
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