“aborigines,” ??
Mar 11th 2010, 5:37 am
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Re: “aborigines,” ??
Now that makes sense!Besides ,to the other poster who mentioned the aborigines had'nt "done much".Whats wrong with that?Do you judge a persons worthiness on how much they've accomplished?Or how much they havent?Most treat their land with the upmost respect,which us "whities"have alot to learn from.
Mar 11th 2010, 5:45 am
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Re: “aborigines,” ??
True and on the other hand most of them have no idea how to live in our world.
Mar 11th 2010, 5:59 am
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Re: “aborigines,” ??
...and just how many of them would have survived more than a week on a Scottish moor in January?. It's a dumb argument.
Mar 11th 2010, 8:47 am
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Mar 11th 2010, 2:13 pm
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The aboriginal way of life, like that of the Native American or the Carib Indian was always going to wiped out, just a question of who and when. The romantic notion that these people led an idyllic is also flawed. They all fought bitterly between tribes and only their level numbers and limited advancement technologically, stopped whole clans being wiped out. Just other human beings, they warred, they stole, they killed.
Mar 11th 2010, 3:59 pm
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Actually, it's amazing that given the population of the UK, there are still isolated places all over the, like the Brecon Beacons for example, where special forces can practice survival techniques etc.
My father in law used to take survival classes on some of the uninhabited Scottish Islands and on more than one occasion was stranded there with the group while the weather cleared to allow the boat to pick up.
One such night a half full keg of Tennents beer washed up on shore and they had a beer to go with the cormorant dinner!
Mar 11th 2010, 4:12 pm
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There were other reasons they didn't all kill each other. Many tribes did have agreed boundaries - crossing tribes displayed smoke as they crossed the land for notification and permission. There were fully developed inter-tribal rules. But your right in the sense that tribal numbers stayed at a sustainable level dictated by nature.
Mar 11th 2010, 9:47 pm
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Exactly, others did it, not themselves. So it I guess I'm trying to emphasise that they did have a successful society going on. Some Australians try and down play their society to down play the subsequent destruction and I don't like that approach. Even if saying it would have happened anyway we still should acknowledge that something good was lost. Not aimed at your comment just a broader point.
Mar 11th 2010, 11:44 pm
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Exactly, others did it, not themselves. So it I guess I'm trying to emphasise that they did have a successful society going on. Some Australians try and down play their society to down play the subsequent destruction and I don't like that approach. Even if saying it would have happened anyway we still should acknowledge that something good was lost. Not aimed at your comment just a broader point.
By the time the last aborigine met 'civilisation' in 1964, that civilisation had ships that sailed the worlds oceans, railways travelling at hundreds of KPH, and satellites in orbit. The aborigine had hair belts and a bent stick.
What did we lose?
Mar 12th 2010, 12:40 am
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"we still should acknowledge that something good was lost".
By the time the last aborigine met 'civilisation' in 1964, that civilisation had ships that sailed the worlds oceans, railways travelling at hundreds of KPH, and satellites in orbit. The aborigine had hair belts and a bent stick.
What did we lose?
By the time the last aborigine met 'civilisation' in 1964, that civilisation had ships that sailed the worlds oceans, railways travelling at hundreds of KPH, and satellites in orbit. The aborigine had hair belts and a bent stick.
What did we lose?
Mar 12th 2010, 12:59 am
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"we still should acknowledge that something good was lost".
By the time the last aborigine met 'civilisation' in 1964, that civilisation had ships that sailed the worlds oceans, railways travelling at hundreds of KPH, and satellites in orbit. The aborigine had hair belts and a bent stick.
What did we lose?
By the time the last aborigine met 'civilisation' in 1964, that civilisation had ships that sailed the worlds oceans, railways travelling at hundreds of KPH, and satellites in orbit. The aborigine had hair belts and a bent stick.
What did we lose?
To do this they developed a lot of knowledge of this country and how to live in it from finding food, water, fixing themselves when they were ill, dealing with seasons and a lot more. A lot of the those skills have been lost.
Whether we value them or not they had some remarkable skills developed over 1000's of years - the jury is still out whether our more developed way of living is sustainable over 1000's of years so they might come back into vogue one day
Mar 12th 2010, 1:57 am
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The aboriginal culture was perfect for sustaining human life on this continent for long periods....they obviously managed to survive for a long time without significantly degrading the country.
To do this they developed a lot of knowledge of this country and how to live in it from finding food, water, fixing themselves when they were ill, dealing with seasons and a lot more. A lot of the those skills have been lost.
Whether we value them or not they had some remarkable skills developed over 1000's of years - the jury is still out whether our more developed way of living is sustainable over 1000's of years so they might come back into vogue one day
To do this they developed a lot of knowledge of this country and how to live in it from finding food, water, fixing themselves when they were ill, dealing with seasons and a lot more. A lot of the those skills have been lost.
Whether we value them or not they had some remarkable skills developed over 1000's of years - the jury is still out whether our more developed way of living is sustainable over 1000's of years so they might come back into vogue one day
Pretty much the same as the aboriginals were doing in Australia... but we moved on.. we progressed.
WE have remarkable skills. I'm part of a technological society that has the capability to connect all of mankind. Don't you find that more remarkable than being able to scratch an existence from the Outback?.
We think it amazing that they have 'skills' we don't... but our ancestors used to have exactly the same skills for surviving in the European environment... we lost those skills because we improved our personal environment to the point that they are no longer needed.
If I need to find food and water now, I go to Woolworths or turn on a tap.
To fix myself when I'm ill I either take medications or contact a doctor.. Dealing with the seasons.. I have shelter, heat, light, air-conditioning.
If we can't sustain that way of life then that doesn't mean the 'old' ways were right all along... it means we regressed.
Mar 12th 2010, 2:18 am
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Exactly, others did it, not themselves. So it I guess I'm trying to emphasise that they did have a successful society going on. Some Australians try and down play their society to down play the subsequent destruction and I don't like that approach. Even if saying it would have happened anyway we still should acknowledge that something good was lost. Not aimed at your comment just a broader point.