Originally posted by Florida_03
I think that is a bit harsh. We really rely on the smart guys and that includes engineers and scientists. It is the wankers we elect as political representatives who stuff things up. Take the atomic bomb for instance.

Originally posted by pommie bastard
You should be okay in Australia no bomb here just W**kers ,and the worst Pollies on the planet all good engineers and scientists left years ago.

Originally posted by Thylacoleo
Fascinating Mike.

I'd appreciate it, at the risk of becoming personal, if you could try to put your finger on what you think has happened to your England of 5 years ago.

Which is the more changed, you or England? Perhaps you were an Aussie waiting to happen?

P.S. You haven't been bitten by a Calici infected rodent have you? Or mauled by Bulldogs?

Originally posted by mx5rabbitohs
Well, it was incredible - when I arrived in Aus, I felt I had finally ARRIVED - and could be really myself - it was amazing, and I'd never been - although my gf was a Aussie.
It's as if I've been a closet aussie all my life without knowing it. I found myself understanding the culture as it was - well me. When I met English people they sounded awful - their accents their negativity. Quite a shocker.

Now I'm back in UK, eveything seems wrong, especially the people- too much misery, stiffness, overpoliteness, snobbiness, no humour - just
a "negative humour", and people seem to live up to class stereotypes - unless you've known someone for years none ever really lets their guard down. it's the banter, and 'she'll be alright attitude' I miss.....

mike

Originally posted by pommie bastard
The Aussie attitude here is no service and ask me if I give sod not happy bugger off and talk to some who cares , because 'she'll be alright mate' even if its not , dont work whats new tell me what does?
Pray what humour does an Aussie have , they have no well know comics that travel outside of Australia , give me one present Australian TV comedy that has been shown outside of Australia .
This is a land for the worlds misfits you are welcome to it , the people who have warmth and humour here are the Brits and mainly the people from the North of England who would laugh at your bull.

Originally posted by pommie bastard
Not a problem must say my one of main reasons is my Son is settling down now I do not wish to out of his life any more but I do think that my life has gone backwards here and am fed up making excusses for Australia just to be excepted as one of the boys.
My life was good in the UK and will make it so again , all my family live full and well rounded lifes none understood why I should want to immigrate and thought that I was mad , how right they were.
You are on I will give the UK a write up good or bad.

Originally posted by mx5rabbitohs
hate to say this but often Northerners are the ones that sound the most negative, just listen to Corry Street - although they are warmer than southerners i'll grant you

i don't care about TV comics - they are not the norm - im talking about normal life.
aussie humour = banter. English people never do that, too busy effing and blinding or making self-depreceating jokes.

:-)

Originally posted by Shikse
Sorry for butting in PB, but that last comment shows that you are human with a heart after all.

Good luck to you and your family when/if you do return, I'm sure you'll be very happy and make it big back home. Jobs are easy to come by in the UK (ex. IT) and you will do well if you work hard and have a lucky break.

I can't wait for your comments from the other side


Back to the slanging matches.................

Originally posted by pommie bastard
I refuse to be human I even have a worthless peice of paper with Australian written on it cost $120 I was robbed, apart from that I think we all dream of a better place to live or work after too long here I would say for me this is not it.
I talk to my family often and they always planning some holiday or event , they never have the time to moan except about the weather which all Brits do .

Originally posted by Megalania
So they had to pack you of for some "colonial" experience on a stipend, couldn't stand your moaning. Must be wondering what to do about your impending arrival.

Originally posted by mx5rabbitohs
hate to say this but often Northerners are the ones that sound the most negative, just listen to Corry Street - although they are warmer than southerners i'll grant you

i don't care about TV comics - they are not the norm - im talking about normal life.
aussie humour = banter. English people never do that, too busy effing and blinding or making self-depreceating jokes.

:-)

Originally posted by mx5rabbitohs
On The other hand

I can't understand the appeal of the UK - cold wet - the first thing I noticed when I came back from Aus after a year
WAS HOW MISERABLE everyone looked. People literally looked like they were going to a funeral, and everyone looked down at the floor the while time - it was quite shocking. Noone was upbeat, or happy, or said "G'Day" - people looked past you as if you were invisible, I tried injecting humour in to every day situations in public and people looked at me like I was from Mars
I went in to a pub restaurant bistro in Wimbledon, and the waitress didn't even say hello when we came in the door, or come over, we had to go to her to place orders and she took our empty plates without a single glance or smile, just a frosty expression - no "How'd you go!?". I was so shocked i mentioned it to the manager.

Strangers in bars look amazed when I chat to them in relaxed, open and upbeat tones, over here people expect you to be either a middle class boor or working class geezer. There's no middle ground.

There are fantastic places in England to live, but that's all gone out the window with house price inflation and rip off Britain. People spend all their lives keeping up with everyone else, whereas in Aus I've met some great normal people that have normal homes and average aspirations and are happy.I wouldn't have even considered migrating 5 years ago.

It is almost impossible to buya house and a garden in some parts of the SE, and whats the point in living on an estate in a box somwhere in the rest of England for the rest of your life??

What about our sporting role models? Over here the male culture is all boysy boysy and soccer, over in Aus it is good old rugby and sport is taken seriously. If i jog in the steets over here I get beeped at; in sydney I am just another fit bloke out and about. Here, the commentators on TV sound plebian and negative, whereas footy players in aus are laid back, friendly, gentlemanly and good role models. Our soccer players talk in harsh montones and act the geezer, acting like spoilt prima donnas.

There is still an innocence over there- yet someone in this thread said only the tough can survive Aus - the harsh conditions. i've already said on a newsgroup somewhere that i think english people often immigrate for the weather and the
lifestyle but don't ever really get in to the culture/black humour
etc, and then get branded as poms. just what i noticed that's all.
They then get left out of Aus culture by the Aussies.

I get amused when i see English people who have lived for ten years in oz but still maintaining the snobby stiff upper lip of the english - still seeming, how can I put this.. well english. It's like they don't "get it".
When i was there, I'd been there ten minutes and got on, and got stuck in to the laid back humour.. and was then accepted by the aussies as not a "whinging pom", and a "good bloke".

there are far too many people going over there on a whim. To be successful in Aus, you have to GET STUCK In with the locals, BANTER, but BE LAID BACK, they can't stand people whinging or getting uptight. You have to be confident, strong, but not "UP YOURSELF", and you have to like people. That's the advice I would give all English people. If you can't be like that you will not get on and you will be considered - a POM(!)

Mike

Originally posted by muppetking
I don't quite know how to break this to you....... BUT.......Coro isn't real! And Aussies don't use profanities....is that an example of your humour!!LOL

Originally posted by mx5rabbitohs
I said English people eff and blind. On the bus the other day in the UK even the kids were effing and blinding - then I realised that Aussie schooldchildren are much better behaved on public transport - even the kids are more laid back!

Of course corry is not real - but it is indicative, and a portrayal of northern culture and i've met stacks of northern people that come across as negative, although bless them i know they try, and are not as negative as they appear..