the troubadour

I will leave the laying down to you as i can bare witness it does appear to have a remarkably beneficial effect.As for myself i can dodge the bullets better on my toes and can shoot from the hip with speed and greater accuracy

Dorothy

Let's cut out the bickering boys and girls.

robo43

Here we go again, the Guardianista brigade calling anyone who Questions Illegal immigrationn/Asylum seekers racists, usually when they have lost the argument.

paulry

If today's budget was anything to go by the next great flood of "refugees" are likely to be Brown's "children".

the troubadour

Hardly likely when on the top of the pile of illegal immigrants are white British citizens..and fully agree should be hunted down with the help of the hounds.

the troubadour

Although one feels they may well rough it out before giving up all in the civilised world to take their chances in the colonies,at least wait until after the election at any rate.

paulry

For me, the prospect of David Cameron taking over the reins of government is just another incentive to leave.

http://allaboutfrogs.org/stories/boiled.html

the troubadour

Incentive enough,indeed.

rosscov1970

Slightly off at a tangent, but kind of on topic, so hey ho...The winter volleyball season started yesterday here in SA. My 3 girls all play competitively at junior level so we went down to watch the opening game of our club's senior men's team. Was surprised and pleased to see a new team had joined our club, a group of young Afghani men, who, I was informed were refugees. Personally I think it's wonderful that they have joined our club, an opportunity for different cultures to mix, to make new friends, to respect each other's abilities and to dispel myths and possible prejudice. As a relative newcomer to this country myself, I'm looking forward to meeting these players, to hear what they think of their new home and lifestyle and their journey here and their reasons for coming. Not to judge, just to hear their story.... as so many have previously asked ours. And as I'm a nosey, old bird, I hope they share.

Catch

We had a mob of them at a tennis club in the UK, they got kicked out after a month for pestering some of the younger female members

rosscov1970

You get annoying blokes of all nationalities and as far as volleyball players go, these guys are very much on the short side. The young women at our club are very tall and athletic and could probably whoop their arses if the need arose. Anyhoo, lets put a more positive spin on things and assume these young men will develop a respect for these women inspired by their sporting abilities and achievement.

UncleKev

Sport is definitely one of the best ways of fast-tracking people into a new social and cultural environment. I hope it goes well, and who know one of your daughters may fall in love with one of these guys and marry into their faith. Australia is certainly renowned for having one of the highest rates of inter-marriage between locals and newly arrived immigrants. I think that the key is certainly managing the volume of new arrivals, and ensuring that all the systems are in place to rapidly integrate them into their new homes. Hopefully if these young gentlemen are successful in the vollyball, they will report back and their sisters will be along shortly with a girls team.

rosscov1970

Interesting you should mention a girl's team. I asked the club president if that was a possibility and he said they weren't allowed to play sport because the modesty of their religion and dress code make it impractical. I didn't believe this to be strictly true as I remember seeing on the TV, relatively recently, a muslim female athlete competing on the track with head, arms and legs covered (she might have been Iranian). Although I am aware that ideally an all female environment, competitor, official and spectator is the only option for many muslim women.

paulry

Somehow, a lot of Asian men seem have been brainwashed into thinking that Western women are "cheap". A sad cultural misunderstanding really because when these people get given the boot they wrongly intepret it as racist behaviour. ...And the spiral goes on from there. Maybe all immigrants should be required to pass local culture tests for the country that they intend to settle in BEFORE stepping foot in the country - A cultural IELTS.

paulry

Taking about Confusion, I wonder which of Zuma's wives will become First Lady?