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Wol Nov 24th 2005 4:42 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by dshole
Oh so because it's legal, that makes it right?

ROFL!

If you mean *moral* I might accept it - but in the context of a country's internal laws, I can't think of another more suitable equivalence.

Wol Nov 24th 2005 4:45 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by dshole
You realise the contradiction in what you are saying here?

No, I don't.

Gratuitous theft, violence, murder or whatever can't be equated with state punishment.

If it was, then no-one would logically be punished for anything on the grounds that, for example, a fine is "theft".

dshole Nov 24th 2005 4:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Rog Williams
No, I don't.

Gratuitous theft, violence, murder or whatever can't be equated with state punishment.

If it was, then no-one would logically be punished for anything on the grounds that, for example, a fine is "theft".

You cannot on one hand say that you value human life and on the other support capital punishment.

Wol Nov 24th 2005 4:57 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by dshole
You cannot on one hand say that you value human life and on the other support capital punishment.

Oh, please! I respect other's property but support imprisoning them if they nick things. Don't you?

NedKelly Nov 24th 2005 5:42 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by Centurion
Actually I'm not Christian and Singapore's primary "religion", or rather belief system is Buddhist. I think that the religious aspect of this should perhaps be put back in the box. The matter of execution has little in my mind to do with ones religion and more to do with culture, politics, history and more politics. A complicated mix of all of them to boot.

If they are Buddhist that's alright then. Buddhists beleive in reincarnation so he won't really die, he will be reincarnated as an ant, or maybe a dung beetle if he is lucky.

Englishmum Nov 29th 2005 1:55 am

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There is a thought provoking article in the 'Herald Sun'....the columnist is actually supporting Singapore's stance on the matter:

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/...E25717,00.html

BartSimpson Nov 30th 2005 8:23 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
Revenge because there's no possibility of redemption or correction to the persons behaviour - because they'r dead. And studies have shown that major crimes do not decrease when capital punishment is introduced.
So what else can the reason be? Basically "you have done so this so we are going to kill you".

Dude....goto Saudi... and say the same thing that capital punishment dont work... :)
No pal... its not you have done so this sso we are going to kill you...
Its the law of land... Singaporian dont spare their own citizen... we are telling them to abide by our law...
I was looking at the whole hype in TV... how a crimial is made God... a martyr.... what a reason to die... Drug trafficking...
Australia and NZ shouted hooy hooy... Human Rights... not the rightway of execution... Why did not the shout at 999th execution made by US...
Damn it its all Gimmick...
Rest his soul in peace... Personally i feel bad for the outcome, but hes not right... and cant support his deed and our govt efforts and I am not with people to support him...

So folks... dont carry even tables(2 even) to Asia... else you will be stripped....

-- Bart

BartSimpson Nov 30th 2005 8:26 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly
If they are Buddhist that's alright then. Buddhists beleive in reincarnation so he won't really die, he will be reincarnated as an ant, or maybe a dung beetle if he is lucky.

dude... its not Buddists alone we as Hindu belive the same...
And btw Buddism was preached and followed on the same lines and teachings of Hinduism. I am angry at you as you just mentioned Buddism... :scared:
Hinduism has more to offer about science of living, above meta-physical, way of leaving and more...

;)
-- Bart

CasG Nov 30th 2005 8:31 pm

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At the end of the day...the man went into a country - whose laws say that execution for drug trafficking is justified - with a **** load of heroin strapped to him.

Why should he be above the law??

He is a guest in another country...and should have respected their laws.........whether you agree with them or not.

NedKelly Nov 30th 2005 8:39 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by BartSimpson
dude... its not Buddists alone we as Hindu belive the same...
And btw Buddism was preached and followed on the same lines and teachings of Hinduism. I am angry at you as you just mentioned Buddism... :scared:
Hinduism has more to offer about science of living, above meta-physical, way of leaving and more...

;)
-- Bart

Well please forgive my ignorance of world religions Bart. I am most humbled by your instructions in the correct way. I must study Hinduism more closely and discover the teachings.

NedKelly Nov 30th 2005 8:43 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by carolinegorka
At the end of the day...the man went into a country - whose laws say that execution for drug trafficking is justified - with a **** load of heroin strapped to him.

Why should he be above the law??

Well believe it or not there seem to be a lot of bleedin heart liberals that think he should be made into a martyr. Some twat even suggested we had a minutes silence, like we have to honour the war dead who fought for our way of life. Personally I think they should use piano wire instaed of rope and hang him by the balls.

spalen Nov 30th 2005 8:45 pm

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly
Well believe it or not there seem to be a lot of bleedin heart liberals that think he should be made into a martyr. Some twat even suggested we had a minutes silence, like we have to honour the war dead who fought for our way of life. Personally I think they should use piano wire instaed of rope and hang him by the balls.

Did you see some union or other (they are all the same - led by idiots) wanted to act and strike against Singapore Airlines. Yeah go ahead nobbies - come outon strike in support of a convicted drug runner... that'll do the membership a world of good trying to get another lunch break or 5 minutes longer holiday.

I wish they would do it - then they could all be fired and be made an example of.

eintracht Nov 30th 2005 8:49 pm

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Can somenbody just send me an e-mail when this idiot has got his just deserts and been executed then I can crack a tinnie in celebration.
Then we can all forget about it until the next knob gets caught.

seang Nov 30th 2005 9:06 pm

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Wonder what will happen if the (is it) 9 Australians been held get the death sentence

diddy Dec 1st 2005 9:54 am

Re: Van Nguyen Execution
 

Originally Posted by seang
Wonder what will happen if the (is it) 9 Australians been held get the death sentence

Eintracht will probably crack open nine tinnies.


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