Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Nov 7th 2006, 8:28 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Asked DIMIA ( London office) about the changes and when you are classed as a permanent resident...their reply follows:
''We do not know whether the changes will affect those who have been granted a permanent visa, or those who have been granted a permanent visa AND have activated it. Until the legislation comes into effect we cannot provide additional details.''
And also contained the information:
''Permanent residency is granted when the visa is granted subjected to visa holder complying to the visa condition 8504 from the migration regulation which states that:
'The holder must enter Australia as the holder of the visa to which the condition applies before a date specified by the Minister'
The visa will be subjected to cancellation if this condition is not complied.''
I hope it is clearer to you than it was to me.
''We do not know whether the changes will affect those who have been granted a permanent visa, or those who have been granted a permanent visa AND have activated it. Until the legislation comes into effect we cannot provide additional details.''
And also contained the information:
''Permanent residency is granted when the visa is granted subjected to visa holder complying to the visa condition 8504 from the migration regulation which states that:
'The holder must enter Australia as the holder of the visa to which the condition applies before a date specified by the Minister'
The visa will be subjected to cancellation if this condition is not complied.''
I hope it is clearer to you than it was to me.
Nov 7th 2006, 10:25 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by john_w
Asked DIMIA ( London office) about the changes and when you are classed as a permanent resident...their reply follows:
''We do not know whether the changes will affect those who have been granted a permanent visa, or those who have been granted a permanent visa AND have activated it. Until the legislation comes into effect we cannot provide additional details.''
And also contained the information:
''Permanent residency is granted when the visa is granted subjected to visa holder complying to the visa condition 8504 from the migration regulation which states that:
'The holder must enter Australia as the holder of the visa to which the condition applies before a date specified by the Minister'
The visa will be subjected to cancellation if this condition is not complied.''
I hope it is clearer to you than it was to me.
''We do not know whether the changes will affect those who have been granted a permanent visa, or those who have been granted a permanent visa AND have activated it. Until the legislation comes into effect we cannot provide additional details.''
And also contained the information:
''Permanent residency is granted when the visa is granted subjected to visa holder complying to the visa condition 8504 from the migration regulation which states that:
'The holder must enter Australia as the holder of the visa to which the condition applies before a date specified by the Minister'
The visa will be subjected to cancellation if this condition is not complied.''
I hope it is clearer to you than it was to me.
Nov 8th 2006, 12:15 am
#108
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by vb2
i heard along the grapevine that children born after 1980 something, do not automatically obtain dual citizenship alongside their parents anymore
Nov 8th 2006, 12:16 am
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by Wendy
It basically means that they aren't committing themselves to answering the question just yet
Nov 8th 2006, 4:17 am
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by JAJ
The draft legislation is in the public domain for anyone who wants to read it. Just be warned, it's complex.
I'm not even going there :scared:
I'm so glad that I really don't care if it takes 2 years or 20 years to get citizenship
Nov 8th 2006, 9:56 am
#111
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
thanks for that, i simply wanted my son to have a choice as to where he lives when he is old enough, now it appears he will have that luxury.
thanks
regards
vb2
thanks
regards
vb2
Originally Posted by JAJ
That's absolute rubbish. Your son will keep his British citizenship when he becomes Australian.
Nov 21st 2006, 7:18 pm
#112
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Thought I'd come out of my permanent lurkdom to post this:
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...6-announce.htm
On 2 November 2006, the Australian Government tabled amendments to the Australian Citizenship Bill 2005 for consideration by Parliament.
The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006.
The proposed residential requirements would not apply to people who become permanent residents before the new Act commences. They would only be required to meet the current two-year residential qualifying period provided they apply for citizenship within three years of commencement of the new Act.
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006.
The proposed residential requirements would not apply to people who become permanent residents before the new Act commences. They would only be required to meet the current two-year residential qualifying period provided they apply for citizenship within three years of commencement of the new Act.
Consideration by the Parliament of the changes to citizenship legislation currently before it is not now expected to be completed until at least the Autumn Sittings in 2007. Accordingly it is not expected that the new Act would come into effect before 1 July 2007.
Nov 22nd 2006, 2:34 am
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by Sagacity
Thought I'd come out of my permanent lurkdom to post this:
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...6-announce.htm
http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...6-announce.htm
Nov 22nd 2006, 1:36 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by DunRoaminTheUK
Excellent. This is good news.
Nov 22nd 2006, 10:11 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Excellent News. 
But have you noticed the typo?
It says that on the 2 November they tabled amendments including changes tabled on 17 November.
Now that's a forward thinking Government!
But have you noticed the typo?
It says that on the 2 November they tabled amendments including changes tabled on 17 November.
Now that's a forward thinking Government!
Last edited by marco121068; Nov 22nd 2006 at 10:14 pm.
Nov 23rd 2006, 2:23 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
Originally Posted by marco121068
Excellent News.
But have you noticed the typo?
It says that on the 2 November they tabled amendments including changes tabled on 17 November.
But have you noticed the typo?
It says that on the 2 November they tabled amendments including changes tabled on 17 November.
"The amendments included changes to the residence requirements for Australian citizenship announced by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs, Andrew Robb, on 17 September 2006."
Feb 1st 2007, 10:34 pm
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
I wonder if any body can tell me how this is going to affect me. I was planing to apply under 136 visa when Iam 44 and validate this in the next year. Then we would all go out when I turn 47. Is this still possible, i have already passed TRA as general electrician. Also does anyone know what the licencing is like in qeensland. Do I need to have a logbook of work etc.
thanks
thanks
Feb 2nd 2007, 8:02 am
#119
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
ask all your questions on another thread of your own so you will get more answer mate.
yes you can btw as the visa for 136 is valid for 5 years, this thread is answering how long til your a citizen not pr. if you plan to stay forever then you can do so as a pr, you dont need to be a citizen. other visas have diff rules but what you want to do is the same as we have.
al
yes you can btw as the visa for 136 is valid for 5 years, this thread is answering how long til your a citizen not pr. if you plan to stay forever then you can do so as a pr, you dont need to be a citizen. other visas have diff rules but what you want to do is the same as we have.
al
Feb 7th 2007, 8:58 am
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Re: Update - New Citizenship Residence Requirement
This thread is now closed. The thread has been merged with its companion in the Immigration forum, and I have moved posts with effect from December 2006.
Please see the continuing discussion here -
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396979
Please see the continuing discussion here -
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=396979
