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Old Oct 31st 2015, 1:56 pm
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Has anybody any advice on this please? We have a property that we let in the UK and so I complete a tax return each year. We are looking at moving and wonder what will happen about the tax return as we will continue to earn an income whilst in Aus. Wil i need to continue to send them a return but online, will they mail me statements etc?
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Yes you will need to keep on completing UK tax returns but at least at the moment, you won't be able to do it online if you use HMRC's software as it does not support the non-resident pages - see here. Commercial software does though.

They will correspond with you wherever you live.

You should deal with the non-resident landlord forms before you leave - see https://www.gov.uk/government/public...guidance-notes and https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ividuals-nrl1i.

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Thank you very much for the information - looks like a few nights good bedtime reading here!
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Yes you will need to keep on completing UK tax returns but at least at the moment, you won't be able to do it online if you use HMRC's software as it does not support the non-resident pages - see here. Commercial software does though.

They will correspond with you wherever you live.

You should deal with the non-resident landlord forms before you leave - see https://www.gov.uk/government/public...guidance-notes and https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ividuals-nrl1i.

I think I have done mine online the last 4 years via HMRC website.

Still have to do this years one, but I no longer have any income from property or anything else there. Maybe I won't need to do it.
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
I think I have done mine online the last 4 years via HMRC website.

Still have to do this years one, but I no longer have any income from property or anything else there. Maybe I won't need to do it.
It depends on your tax status - if you are a non-UK resident for tax purposes you cannot do it online. So only temporary residents in Australia can do it online.
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I think I have done mine online the last 4 years via HMRC website.

Still have to do this years one, but I no longer have any income from property or anything else there. Maybe I won't need to do it.
You wont need to do it any more
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It depends on your tax status - if you are a non-UK resident for tax purposes you cannot do it online. So only temporary residents in Australia can do it online.
I logged on and the screen that came up said if you have UK property, which I no longer have, then you can do it online. So I no longer fit the online criteria.

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You wont need to do it any more
Yep, and I won't be doing one as I no longer need to.

Interestingly when I logged on it said they owed me money, which has probably been sitting there since last year's return.

I promptly said pay it to my bank account. Waiting...
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
I logged on and the screen that came up said if you have UK property, which I no longer have, then you can do it online. So I no longer fit the online criteria.



Yep, and I won't be doing one as I no longer need to.

Interestingly when I logged on it said they owed me money, which has probably been sitting there since last year's return.

I promptly said pay it to my bank account. Waiting...
It's self determining; it depends on your answer to question 8 of SA100.
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Originally Posted by Alfresco
I think I have done mine online the last 4 years via HMRC website.

Still have to do this years one, but I no longer have any income from property or anything else there. Maybe I won't need to do it.
Not sure if we have discussed this before, but have you made arrangements to continue to pay NI contributions, so that you can grow the contribution years of your UK state pension?
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Originally Posted by slackbloke
It's self determining; it depends on your answer to question 8 of SA100.
Thanks. I will have a look tomorrow to see what is involved.
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Originally Posted by paulry
Not sure if we have discussed this before, but have you made arrangements to continue to pay NI contributions, so that you can grow the contribution years of your UK state pension?
No I haven't P. I figured that I ain't going back. I have given trying to get my other pension out. So will leave it there until retirement age and see what happens.
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No I haven't P. I figured that I ain't going back. I have given trying to get my other pension out. So will leave it there until retirement age and see what happens.
Your UK state pension is not means tested and will be paid out regardless of where you are in the world. It's well worth topping up. I forget the exact figures but it only works out costing a few hundred pounds a year. Plus they allow you to top up quite cheaply the last 6 years or so since you left the UK. It'll probably be the most fruitful investment relative to outlay that you'll ever make.
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Originally Posted by paulry
Your UK state pension is not means tested and will be paid out regardless of where you are in the world. It's well worth topping up. I forget the exact figures but it only works out costing a few hundred pounds a year. Plus they allow you to top up quite cheaply the last 6 years or so since you left the UK. It'll probably be the most fruitful investment relative to outlay that you'll ever make.
Ok cool. Will check it out in the morning.
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Your UK state pension is not means tested and will be paid out regardless of where you are in the world.
Agreed
BUT if in Oz or NZ it is not index linked and so when you draw the pension it doesn't increase (as it would in UK). Also although it's not taxed in UK it is taxed in Oz and but unless your taxable income is greater then $30,000 when you retire you are under the taxable threshold for retirees.
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Originally Posted by Kiwipaul
Agreed
BUT if in Oz or NZ it is not index linked and so when you draw the pension it doesn't increase (as it would in UK). Also although it's not taxed in UK it is taxed in Oz and but unless your taxable income is greater then $30,000 when you retire you are under the taxable threshold for retirees.
How does it work if both my wife and I have paid the full 35 qualifying years? Do we get the full pension (£115.95 per week) times two?

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