UK tax return
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Re: UK tax return
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#17
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Re: UK tax return
that is my only income in the uk rental income
I had no idea it was not allowed until I saw this !
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Well give it a go or send them and enquiry and see what they say. If you still have rental income there, you should still be able to do it online.
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Re: UK tax return
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad/overview
Quoted from there : You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident
Can you physically submit it online? Yes you can, but only when you incorrectly answer question 8 on SA100.
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Re: UK tax return
I've just found the answers here:
How much state pension will I get? - State pension explained - Retirement - Which? Money
How much state pension will I get? - State pension explained - Retirement - Which? Money
See here
Your state pension if you retire abroad
So yes you will both get the full pension once you retire but it will NOT increase it will stay at the value that you initially receive.
Their has been lobbying of the gov by retires in Oz and NZ but their efforts have been ignored.
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Re: UK tax return
See: https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad
You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident. Instead, you need to:Fill in the ‘residence’ section (form SA109 if you’re sending it by post) to tell HMRC you’re non-resident. Fill in any sections relating to your type of income.
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You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident. Instead, you need to:Fill in the ‘residence’ section (form SA109 if you’re sending it by post) to tell HMRC you’re non-resident. Fill in any sections relating to your type of income.
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Re: UK tax return
Temporary residents of Australia can be non-UK resident.
Consider (for example) subclass 457 visa holders who are living and working in Australia for (say) 3 or 4 years. They would most probably be non-UK resident, and would need to lodge the Residence supplement to the UK tax return if they are required to lodge a UK tax return under the Self Assessment regime.
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Re: UK tax return
Temporary residents of Australia can be non-UK resident.
Consider (for example) subclass 457 visa holders who are living and working in Australia for (say) 3 or 4 years. They would most probably be non-UK resident, and would need to lodge the Residence supplement to the UK tax return if they are required to lodge a UK tax return under the Self Assessment regime.
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Consider (for example) subclass 457 visa holders who are living and working in Australia for (say) 3 or 4 years. They would most probably be non-UK resident, and would need to lodge the Residence supplement to the UK tax return if they are required to lodge a UK tax return under the Self Assessment regime.
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The observation about temporary residents of Australia is irrelevant. That's the point.
The issue of the completion of the Residency supplement is driven by whether the taxpayer is non-UK resident.
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Re: UK tax return
Your second point it just re-quoting my earlier post.
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Re: UK tax return
To repeat: a person's temporary residency status in Australia is irrelevant to the issue of lodging a Residence supplement to a UK tax return.
A person can be a permanent visa holder and still be a tax resident of the UK.
The UK residency position is determined by the UK's Statutory Residency Test.
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Re: UK tax return
To repeat: a person's temporary residency status in Australia is irrelevant to the issue of lodging a Residence supplement to a UK tax return.
A person can be a permanent visa holder and still be a tax resident of the UK.
The UK residency position is determined by the UK's Statutory Residency Test.
Best regards.
A person can be a permanent visa holder and still be a tax resident of the UK.
The UK residency position is determined by the UK's Statutory Residency Test.
Best regards.
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Re: UK tax return
Not sure what's difficult about this; you can't do it online. Refer to this :
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad/overview
Quoted from there : You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident
Can you physically submit it online? Yes you can, but only when you incorrectly answer question 8 on SA100.
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad/overview
Quoted from there : You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident
Can you physically submit it online? Yes you can, but only when you incorrectly answer question 8 on SA100.
#29
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Re: UK tax return
Actually I answer that question correctly every year, and I've submitted it every year for the last 6 years, so far with no problems. I know I'm supposed to use commercial software to do it, but as long as I keep answering correctly and they keep taking it I'll keep on submitting online....
#30
Re: UK tax return
Not sure what's difficult about this; you can't do it online. Refer to this :
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad/overview
Quoted from there : You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident
Can you physically submit it online? Yes you can, but only when you incorrectly answer question 8 on SA100.
https://www.gov.uk/tax-uk-income-live-abroad/overview
Quoted from there : You can’t use HMRC’s online services to tell them about your income if you’re non-resident
Can you physically submit it online? Yes you can, but only when you incorrectly answer question 8 on SA100.
There is simply no way in this day and age that I will download, print off, fill in with ink and then post off a paper based return just because HMRC website says so.
Oh! and I didn't answer question 8 an SA100 incorrectly.
Hope that helps.
Last edited by Alfresco; Jan 11th 2016 at 6:40 am.