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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by Japonica
This sounds like the promo for a show, "When Australia Attacks!" LOL

Truth is, no matter where you're living, you can probably get bitten, stung, poked, injured by something. Living in Canada, we have ticks in the mountains, rattlesnakes down south, brown recluse spiders (aside from the usual black widows we find in our imported grapes), millions of West Nile carrying mozzies all summer, even in the city, we had packs of coyotes roaming the urban river valley trail system and attacking small dogs. I never thought, "Cripes...I can't live here. Death awaits me at every turn."

I did cut myself while making dinner last week. I tried to tell my husband that the kitchen is a hazardous place (for reasons other than my cooking now) and that he has to do all the food prep. He's not buying it. Drat.
I think that if you are from the UK, the bites and stings are just from wasps, bees (more rarely) and midges..and you can go walking in woods without fear you will disturb snakes...and swimming in the sea (if you can stand the cold) without any fear of sharks or dangerous fish....and thats why we are pretty worried about all the stuff in Australia. Oh and ants do bite, but they aren't exactly agrressive I know I am concerned about all the dangerous stuff, its another whole set of things to teach your kids about and I think mine definitely would be anxious..

I know I'm not saying anything new here, I'm just saying its hardly any wonder we would be bothered since all the dangerous stuff is totally outsdie our previous experiences...
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by asprilla
oh, and when you get here, be careful of the fish that you eat.

If you are unlucky enough to be served meat from a big reef fish, and that fish has ciguatera, then you'll be vomiting for days, in pain all over, stuck in bed with exhaustion, hot things will feel cold (and vice versa), and you may start hallucinating.

Doctor will tell you "no alcohol for 12months" (I reckon that's worse than the actual poisoning symptoms).

Oh, and there's no cure. You've got it for life and this is the worst bit - for the rest of your life, each time you get drunk, there's a good chance you will experience the initial poisoning symptoms again.



But these are just little things. Australia is great !
Ha ha...it sounds just like that chapter from Bill Bryson's book...for anyone who hasn't read it (and you should, it's a great laugh), he's in Qld telling an English friend travelling with him about all the things that will bite, sting...can't go swimming because of stingers, beware mad cassowaries, don't pick up coneshells (the buddy replies, "they have killer seashells here?") and they discover there's nothing to do but go for dinner and have a few beers. The buddy orders snapper and Bill says, "so, you've never heard of ciguatera then?" and the guy's like, "no, what is it? am I sitting on it? Is it on my head?" So, Bill goes into this lengthy explanation, the friend changes his order to steak and they both end up boozing so much that Bill says they eerily mimic the symptoms they were trying to avoid.
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Japonica
Ha ha...it sounds just like that chapter from Bill Bryson's book...for anyone who hasn't read it (and you should, it's a great laugh), he's in Qld telling an English friend travelling with him about all the things that will bite, sting...can't go swimming because of stingers, beware mad cassowaries, don't pick up coneshells (the buddy replies, "they have killer seashells here?") and they discover there's nothing to do but go for dinner and have a few beers. The buddy orders snapper and Bill says, "so, you've never heard of ciguatera then?" and the guy's like, "no, what is it? am I sitting on it? Is it on my head?" So, Bill goes into this lengthy explanation, the friend changes his order to steak and they both end up boozing so much that Bill says they eerily mimic the symptoms they were trying to avoid.
haven't read that one yet.... my mate recommended it several years ago.
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by The Gold Gang
I think that if you are from the UK, the bites and stings are just from wasps, bees (more rarely) and midges..and you can go walking in woods without fear you will disturb snakes...and swimming in the sea (if you can stand the cold) without any fear of sharks or dangerous fish....and thats why we are pretty worried about all the stuff in Australia. Oh and ants do bite, but they aren't exactly agrressive I know I am concerned about all the dangerous stuff, its another whole set of things to teach your kids about and I think mine definitely would be anxious..

I know I'm not saying anything new here, I'm just saying its hardly any wonder we would be bothered since all the dangerous stuff is totally outsdie our previous experiences...
Yeah, it is...and it'll take a little while before you stop checking under every ledge for redbacks and searching your bed for white tails, but you will (stop worrying about it, that is). All of these species are new to me as well, but we've been here 6 months now and I kinda know what to expect...(although now that I've typed that out I'm sure something will happen this week that'll surprise me).

When you know what to do to minimize risk, then you just get on with your life. We were just at the beach two days ago. It's great this time of year...not boiling hot anymore. And we're outdoors a lot...mostly mornings and evenings. Sure, there are some unpleasant critters here, but it's not usually a problem. I had more mozzie bites living in Canada than here. And there's been tons of wasps and bees about, but my last sting was in Canada as well.

As for the snakes, my neighbors go for bush walks all the time. They've rarely seen them and say that the noise and vibration of humans tromping through the bush usually sends them in the opposite direction. The only snakes I've seen was a dead one, but it sent ME in the opposite direction...at full speed. I didn't bother checking if it was dead and my neighbors nearly busted a gut laughing at me.
 
Old Mar 15th 2010 | 3:44 pm
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Snakes ... yes (in the house too) ... Redbacks ... yes (since removed) ... Mossies ... hell, yes (but it's getting colder ... hoorah!) ... Bluebottles ... yes (I'm not a big one for the beach anyway).

Does it bother me? No.

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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by samjones1999
Looking to move to Perth next year, son has fear of spiders and snakes. Are there many in that area or is it in the bush??Are mosquitos a problem at dusk? Are sharks and box jellyfish just on East side? God my family are right wimps, so thought I'd better check it out.
Been semi rural inland for nearly a year now and no snakes as yet, plenty of spiders but no problem with them, we leave the Huntsman's alone and squish the red backs and so far to date only a couple of white tails squish them as well........ Ants have been a pain during summer but they were in England as well. Brought a zapper for Mozzies and have fly traps up that work a treat

I was worried for the dogs mainly but commonsense really and it's not a problem.
 
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Take all the deadly wildlife in OZ snakes, spiders, jellysish, crocs, sharks and so on, they only kill around 10 people a year compared to 1,600 in car accidents per year in OZ .

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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by The Gold Gang
I think that if you are from the UK, the bites and stings are just from wasps, bees (more rarely) and midges..and you can go walking in woods without fear you will disturb snakes...and swimming in the sea (if you can stand the cold) without any fear of sharks or dangerous fish....and thats why we are pretty worried about all the stuff in Australia. Oh and ants do bite, but they aren't exactly agrressive I know I am concerned about all the dangerous stuff, its another whole set of things to teach your kids about and I think mine definitely would be anxious..

I know I'm not saying anything new here, I'm just saying its hardly any wonder we would be bothered since all the dangerous stuff is totally outsdie our previous experiences...
Actually l think as many people die from bee and wasp sting in the Uk then people in OZ die from snake and spider bites. 2-6 bee and wasp sting deaths per year in UK. Around 3 snake bite deaths and zero spider bite deaths per year in OZ. ( last spider bite death in OZ was in 1980)

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Old Mar 15th 2010 | 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by asprilla
oh, and when you get here, be careful of the fish that you eat.

If you are unlucky enough to be served meat from a big reef fish, and that fish has ciguatera, then you'll be vomiting for days, in pain all over, stuck in bed with exhaustion, hot things will feel cold (and vice versa), and you may start hallucinating.

Doctor will tell you "no alcohol for 12months" (I reckon that's worse than the actual poisoning symptoms).

Oh, and there's no cure. You've got it for life and this is the worst bit - for the rest of your life, each time you get drunk, there's a good chance you will experience the initial poisoning symptoms again.



But these are just little things. Australia is great !
Ha ha, never even heard of this, they should serve it up in rehab centres, then the success rate would be 100%.

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Old Mar 17th 2010 | 5:57 pm
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Spiders lots off Redbacks

Cockies just remove them from the house

Snakes none


the most deadly things are the bloody Magpies in nesting season
 
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Originally Posted by samjones1999
Has anyone been attacked by a shark in WA?, the ones I hear about tend to be in Queensland.
Yes, a few people have been attacked by white pointers in the surf.
 
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Originally Posted by asprilla
oh, and when you get here, be careful of the fish that you eat.

If you are unlucky enough to be served meat from a big reef fish, and that fish has ciguatera, then you'll be vomiting for days, in pain all over, stuck in bed with exhaustion, hot things will feel cold (and vice versa), and you may start hallucinating.

Doctor will tell you "no alcohol for 12months" (I reckon that's worse than the actual poisoning symptoms).

Oh, and there's no cure. You've got it for life and this is the worst bit - for the rest of your life, each time you get drunk, there's a good chance you will experience the initial poisoning symptoms again.
And here's the even worse part. Once you have got it, it can be sexually transmitted.
 
Old Mar 17th 2010 | 7:36 pm
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Most painful bite I ever had was from a bull ant (note - do not walk in the bush in thongs [Aus variety!]) and my FIL was allergic to them so had to carry an epipen with him whenever he went bush.
 

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