Originally Posted by hevs

You don't need to pretend to be anything other than who you are young lady Who are you in trouble with now

Originally Posted by wombat42

The " Oz is shit Brigade" have their own forum " the returning to the Uk forum" where they can whinge and whine as much as they like about what a dreadful place Oz is....


why do you exaggerate so much..!!!!....all I see is you whinging and whining about the moving back to UK forum....why don't you tell the moderators to get rid of it then we can see what you REALLY have to offer...

Originally Posted by Charmoll

I moved out to Australia two years ago. We sold a business in the UK and came out here with all our belongings including two cats. On arrival I got a job almost immediately and then we bought a house. We really gave the country a go, despite our belongings going missing in shipping for six months (do not use Robinsons Removals) and our cats coming out of quarantine emaciated. Still we persisted.
I thought that each time that I did something like get a job, that that would help me settle. Still unsettled, I thought well when I buy a house then I will feel like this is really home. But what you don't plan for are the events that evolve back home, a funeral, wedding, christening... After a while one step forward can be knocked by two steps back. Then you realise that this is a hard country to get ahead in, it's not as easy as the trade fairs make out. Businesses are not that easy to set up and the supply chains if you are importing can be frustrating. House prices are comparable to the Uk (gone are the days of being able to buy a house with a pool for a the equivalent of a UK terrace, unless you move to the remote areas).
So, whilst you are struggling to establish your work, life and home, the feelings of isolation and frustration (basically homesickness) set in. Then you start blaming eachother. Your relationship really can suffer. This has been my experience.
Consequently, I can't understate how much I now appreciate what I had in the UK. But always the optomist, we tried to turn this experience into something positive. We decided this was not the place for us, but we could not return immediately because of the house. So my boyfriend decided to train to be a pilot here (a dream of his and a lot cheaper to train here than at home) and I made plans for the move back home. All the things I wish I had done before coming out here. What people fail to mention is that more people return than stay here. Out of eight couples I know from the UK six have returned within three years of coming out here. Only two will remain and only one of those permanently. Also a lot of couples split up.

Finally before I write War and Peace II, this may make someone take stock: with the selling of our property and business and the flights and accommodation and all the other costs of emigrating it cost us about $40,000 to come out here. So please think about it hard, because it is not just the emotions that get knocked. And if you want a change, just think of the great holiday you could go on with that money.
What most agree on is that to make it work here, it is not really down to how much you feel disillusioned with the UK, it is really about how much you love Australia.

Originally Posted by rebabaros

Call me a member of the BE policing service

Originally Posted by halflinggirl2000

Thanks Charmoll for your views, it give me something to think about, as have many have many of the posts I have read since I joined.

Maybe your statistics, are different from ABC's as some things are catching, I feel at the moment that I am on an unintentional crusade to de-populate the whole of the UK. Since announcing to my small part of the world that we are emigrating to oz we have started off a whole string of people in various stages of emigration process, 4 of them deadly serious. Maybe if you are down and not getting that a really strong this is for me vibe, and the people around you are feeling the same, it must be hard.

I must admit to enjoying statistics they make me think how or if they fit in with what I have heard, and to know what I am up against, have thought through most of them and I am not going to be one (a bad/sad statistic)

So here is another set of statistics, these are from one of the removals quote people. Out of 20 people they moved out to oz, they moved 7 back and out of those 7 they moved back to UK they then moved 3 of them back to oz again. (some one else can work out the maths).

Have done so much soul/heart searching, like other people, that it is not one huge sticking plaster to mend a bad life (like the dodgy marriage, get a dog, have a baby or move house to make it all better) and the positive and negative posts have helped me decide that it is for us and we will give it all we have got.

So thanks to you all (fence sitter extraordinaire)

Nicky

Originally Posted by Professional Princess

I was a fence sitter, but its broken now, so I shall cheer from the sidelines and throw beer cans.

Originally Posted by Pants

Pants, the moving back to UK forum is as important as this forum. They both serve as necessary research tool and also aid like minded folk. Besides which, it's important that people get two sides of the coin. This creates informed decisions, and lets face it...people make their own minds up and are rarely swayed by what others experience.

The difficulty is...experiences are individual. What's one mans meat is another mans poison. That's not to say one is right and the other wrong, it's just differences in opinion. None the less both sides should feel able to speak their mind with equal conviction.

So......moderators......leave both forums where they are. They are both worth their weight in gold

Originally Posted by Pinkyfox

Donna (2)

Originally Posted by anya4oz

I think Ceri had mistaken you for e e cummings.

Anya.

Originally Posted by alkristensen

Can we not have threads that detail what we like about the uk or australia as well as why we are moving from one to the other. this is a more balanced view.

Originally Posted by woodyinoz

I think that it is a good thing when someone posts and honest post! Not everybody finds things easy and it is nice to hear when others may not find things peachy. I myself have had a very huge roller coaster since being out here and I found myself having relationship issues that I would never have seen coming. After 2 years things seem to be settling.
I agree that maybe nobody should look at this experience as permanent but they shouldn't stop it from letting them continue with life. Enjoy yourself and if it's for you great but never let yourself become trapped here. Wouldn't it be great to live 6 months in each country...

Originally Posted by seang

Donna
You write fantastic for a 2 year old . And people say the education system is going down hill.