iamthecreaturefromuranus

Shock, horror.. a site dedicated to pitbulls says that they are not dangerous. You keep posting these and I can keep posting a list of the kids killed by them.

geordiebloke

Yes, but that's because you obviously haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

So what the Hell are you talking about then... you say you have had three.. three what?

iamthecreaturefromuranus

You would you like to read that list of kids killed by pitbulls as well?

iamthecreaturefromuranus

What is it about the owners of these things that makes them oblivious to the facts when presented to them?
You have a list of people killed in the US by dogs... the overwhelming majority of whom were killed by pitbulls.. yet still you get comments like "you don't know what you're talking about".

Do these breeds attract idiots? Can you not see what everybody else sees? .... or are you secretly pleased with your little selves when people cross over the road to avoid you and your precious little animal?

Does it make you feel 'hard'?

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Never a truer word spoken.

What goes through the minds of these people when they are choosing a dog? What possible logic can they be using, especially those who have kids as well, when they sit down and say "I know, lets get a pitbull"

geordiebloke

I've looked at your list and have seen "pit bull type" mentioned, but couldn't see a single instance of an attack by an american pit bull (there is a difference)
Can you not get your head round the idea that certain breeds, primarily "pit bull type" are attractive to "£$%wits, who encourage the aggressive side of their dogs.
If the dog of choice for these tossers had been, lets say a rhodesian ridgeback you would find this breed would be catergorised as the most dangerous, I've no doubt.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

The "dog of choice for these tossers" yet here you are defending the breed.

Can you not get your head around the idea that it's a certainty that not all of the dogs in that list of fatalities were owned by "tossers". That probably most of them were owned by people like you. People who spend their time defending them as great 'family companions'... right up until the point where it ripped somebodies face off.

Can you not get your head around the fact that owning one of these animals, marks you down in the eyes of the general public, as one of the ****wits and tossers you so eagerly dismiss?

geordiebloke

Do you know any of the owners involved?
"Probably most of them were owned by people like you" I don't own a pitbull, never have, but have a fair bit of experience with them, both nice and nasty, have you?
Show me where I have stated that they are great family pets? I have simply put forward the view, based on my own experiences rather than media hype and wikipedia articles, that all dogs are potentially dangerous and some far more potentially dangerous than pitbulls.
Of course I could run off at the mouth also and suggest that you are one of those irresponsible dog owners that lets your dog off the leash to bother other people, "because little fiffy could never hurt anybody" then let it shite where ever it pleases, but of course I don't know you from Adam, so wouldn't make such assumptions

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Try reading the thread eh?

We have had them quoted as 'family companions'
Do I know any of the owners.. of course not. But what are the chances of them all being "****wits and tossers"?. None
I keep hearing the term "media hype"... I guess a list of dead people is just hype to some.
Are people dying on purpose, just to give pitbulls a bad name? Inconsiderate bastards.

I own a Vizsla and if you had bothered to read the thread before trying to be a smart arse you would have known that. Look the breed up. Then explain to me why anybody would sensible choose a pitbull, when dogs such as the Viszla are available. The answer should be fascinating.

Deancm_MKII

Your attitude is a typical kneejerk one from people that just don't know or are inexperienced with dogs. Any dog can be dangerous and how dangerous a Pitbull actually is is overhyped by the media. You don't even know what one looks like.

Good on you for owning a Viszla. Personally I wouldn't own one. They are hunting dogs and as such can be aggressive. Hunting dogs need some aggression.

Quote "He is everything that a Vizsla should be, but he is starting to show signs of aggression with people" http://www.dogwise.com/forums/messag...&threadid=2012

Quote "Vizslas can be both aggressive and destructive" www.terrificpets.com/dog_breeds/Vizsla.asp

As has been mentioned in the thread, all dogs can be aggressive. It all comes down to how responsible the owners are, dog socialisation and training. You can't blame the breed for bad, irresponsible owners.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

...and your attitude is plainly ridiculous, defensive and in denial of the facts.

Congratulations on finding a couple of links about Vizsla's being aggressive. Come back with a list of people who they have killed, maimed, ripped the face off... and THEN I might respect your opinion.
Any dog CAN be dangerous but the reality is that some dogs are much more likely to attack, maim and kill. To deny the fact that the Pitbull, or if you want to continue hair splitting, a pitbull type, sits 'proudly' at the top of this list is, as I said, to deny reality.

Deancm_MKII

Show me a list of people that a pure-bred Pitbull has killed.

That is just not true. If you train a dog to attack it will attack. If you train it not to attack it won't atttack. In order to get Pitbulls to attack the owners usually starve and beat them. Now what responsible owner would do that?

Your ignorance about dogs in general and dog breeds is amazing.

If Pitbulls or pitbull types are so bad then why are they used as search and rescue dogs and carer dogs?

American Temperament Test:

The higher the % the better the temperament/less aggression.

Vizsla: 83%

Pitbull: 86.0%

It's a bit ironic that the Pitbull's (killer dog) temperament is actually better than the Vizsla which according to you is supposedly a 100% safe dog with absolutely zero aggressive tendencies.

www.atts.org/stats1.html

geordiebloke

Your list includes, schnauzers, husky, great pyrenees, boxer, old english sheep dog mix, golden retriever, even a jack russell. Should all of these breeds be banned as well?
Maybe we should ban all dogs, just to be on the safe side, or maybe we should just insist that people take responsibility for there own animal.
Do you think that if people kept their dogs on a leash, kept there gardens secure enough to prevent small children from wandering in and didn't leave small children alone with their dogs, that there would be anywhere near as many fatalities?
I agree that the term "pitbull type" appears more than any other in your list, but I believe for the reasons mentioned above.
Anyway, what is a "pitbull type" I would guess anything between a staffy mix and a mastiff mix and any of the 1001 combinations in between.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

You know what?... I give up.

Pitbulls attract a certain type of owner and the people in this thread are just classic examples of those owners. If you choose to ignore the amount of people killed by these types of dogs then further discussion is pointless.

I hope you are happy with your pitbull... and I hope it rips your ****ing face off and not that of your neighbours kids.

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