Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
 

Hi folks just wondering if the Stafford is a recognised breed in Australia and if they are welcome? I have a staff bitch and she is only just turned an adult she will be 2 on saturday!!:D Missy does everything with us she is a total gem of a dog! There is a lot of bad press on these dogs which is totally undeserved.:thumbdown:If they are brought up by respectfull and responsible owners they are saints.:thumbsup: Would there be any complications on taking her to OZ with me because of her breed??

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There arw heaps of Staffies in Oz, and are not on the banned list...

But you should check with an shipping agent.

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A mate of mine brought both his Staffs out no probs, was pricy tho by his account. I agree they're lovely dogs, their temprament depends on their up bringing. My next door neighbour's got a pitbull-mastiff cross, bred for fighting but turned out as soft as shite, lovely dog but don't half look mean;)

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A bit like the Rotty down the park the other week - lovely dog, soft as poo, well brought up, loves being around other dogs - until he bit the tail off a Whippet - or the one at Dendy Park which came bounding over to my friends LWFD and prompty picked it up, threw it around and tore its stomach open.

Personally I don't have a problem with keeping dogs of this sort as pets (ie dogs that are/have been bred for defence) but when you take them out keep them on the leash (if there are other dogs around) or muzzle them.

Dog are not humans and can be very unpredictable - and this goes for all breeds, however, the stronger/larger the dog the more damage it can do.

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Most popular dog in Australia so I hear, more than welcome

(proud stupid staffy owner)

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Good on ya, I have to say if I had a dog though it would have to be an English Bull terrior, and yes I'd call him Bullseye. English Bull, Staffy, and Jack Russel. The 3 best dogs on the planet:D

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Yet. Only a matter of time.

(fellow staffy owner)

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English Bully and Staffy yes. Jack Russell? Are you out of your mind?

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Agree there are heaps of Staffies here. We have one and she is the sweetest most gentle good natured dog I have ever come across. She mothers everyone including our poor cat whom she brought up as her own from a kitten. She is a top dog!

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I am not to keen on jacks either. I just love staffs dont think I would have any other breed!:)

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Mine is petrefied of cats honestly its pathetic:lol:
She is the same with my son he is 3 and we got her when he was 1 they are inseprable now!:thumbup:

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You should try an English Bully. Very similar to Staffys temperament and personality but bigger, stronger and can be a bit of a handful for inexperienced owners.

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Our Socket is a staffy... wouldn't have touched one with a barge pole in the uk but unfortunately he adopted us at the rescue centre ... nicest natured, best behaved dog we've had... and he's had some pretty tough competition from our previous dogs we've owned...

they're very popular here... not just lots of them... we get greeted when out walking by 'everyone'... made a fuss of... friendly as with other dogs and cats... would eat our rat if he could but can't reach him so that's ok..

thought our dalmation smiled.... but she had nothing on his huge grin..

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I love the fact that most of em are total fruit loops. Only small dog worth having I reckon, I agree that you have to be equally nuts to own one:D

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You should try a West Highland White Terrier. That are off the nuts scale! The most vicious dog I have ever owned. Never have another.

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All I would say is keep such fighter dogs contained. The other day I saw an email containing pictures of a man whose face and hands were eaten by a bull terrrier.. If such a dog is out on the streets, things can go horribly wrong.:(

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Are you sure it was a Bull Terrier?

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It was a Pit Bull with big mouth (my limited knowledge thinks its a species of Bull Terrier) .. The other day I was standing at a bus stop near Hampton where a shop owner has let his German shepherd open on the road.

Another passer by came with his little dog and the German shepherd became hostile towards the little dog and start him beat with its big hands and tried to bite it.. There was a mess for sometime till the shop owner came and sorted things out..

Small dog owner came on my side of the road, sweating and said to me "People shouldn't keep such monsters unleashed on the roads" ... I've seen videos on Youtube showing how Pitbulls cause bloodshed on weaker dogs, given a chance.. I'm quite scared after seeing their killer instincts:(

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How do you know it was a Pit Bull?

Any dog has the ability to be vicious. Just because you saw videos on Youtube about Pit Bulls doesn't mean they are all like that. Those dogs have usually been trained to fight/starved/bashed to heighten their aggression.

Did you know Pit Bulls are also used as search and rescue dogs and as carer dogs for elderly people?

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Thats the creature in my avatar :p

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Yes I understand that.. All I say is greater responsibility comes with such big dogs.. A small slippage can cause mayhem..

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Lots of dogs look like that. From the following link, can you tell me which dog is the Pit Bull?

www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

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#7 is pit bull.. I think it is identified from its shoulder muscles.

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Darn.. I was wrong.. As I admitted earlier that my knowledge is limited :p

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That's the problem. When these attacks happen people usually say "oh, it was a Pit Bull" and yet most people don't even know what one looks like. So how do they know if it was a Pit Bull or not?

And because of peoples lack of knowledge, Pit Bulls have been given a bad name and banned in many places.

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...and bloody rightly so.

Keeping an animal as a family pet that is capable of biting your arm clean off is bordering on insanity.... and don't start giving me nonsense about how it's "all the fault of the owners". Certain breeds of dogs are MUCH more likely to attack than other breeds... and the Pit Bull holds pride of place in that group.

"In the 3-year period from 2006 to 2008, pit bull type dogs killed 52 Americans and accounted for 59% of all fatal attacks. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers accounted for 73% of these deaths"

All the fault of the owners?

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Here's the list of most dangerous dogs in the world and Pit proudly holds the top place

http://www.petsdo.com/blog/top-ten-1...ous-dog-breeds

Wonder how most of the fierce dogs have originated from Germany:blink:

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Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia are very common, however when you said your dog does everything with you, then think again in Australia.

You are extremely limited where dogs can go. They are very often not allowed outside cafes, hotels, very few beaches accept dogs and there is virtually no where to walk your dog off the lead unlike the public footpaths in the UK.

Dogs in Australia (owned by Australians) are kept in back gardens, often not house trained or for that matter trained at all which causes dog fights on a regular basis. In Sydney dogs roam the streets and I find dog mess everywhere which I personally find disgusting. I cannot understand why Australians will not clean up after their dogs. It is no wonder sometimes that dogs are banned from so many places due to dog owners that have no respect for the country.

It is these reasons that would make me consider returning to the UK as I enjoyed the laws in the UK that make the UK such an animal loving nation, something Australia only pretends to be.

Also, please do not think you would want to breed with your dog. There are so many unwanted dogs here. Dogs in Australia if not reclaimed within a couple of weeks are often euthanised, something I struggle with due to incompetent owners.

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As per your quote it states "pit bull type". That doesn't mean they are Pit Bulls at all, just Pit Bull type. That could mean Pit Bull, Staffy, Bully, or a cross. It could also mean Dogo Argentino which looks similar to the uneducated but is not even related.

'Pit Bull' has become a catch all.

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I live in Sydney and have to disagree with you, apart from work my dog goes nearly everywhere with me. All the local pubs, cafe's and restaurants allow dogs in their on street seating areas (legally as the law was change recently to allow that, after NSW MPs found it was actually illegal) in fact my local pub allows dogs inside.

My local dog park is off leash apart from during the day Saturday & Sunday (when it is "supposedly" on leash) and a great socialisation point.

I don't see even 10% of the dog poo on the streets that I did living in London despite seeing many more dogs.

The only dogs i've seen wandering the streets are escapees.

Staffies are very popular here and all the ones i've met are great (collies & oodles in my area seem to be the vicious ones). I believe the main way a dog behaves is due to nurture by its human pack members rather than nature.

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100% agree,

What is the point of a big dog? People worry about secondary smoke but you are allowed to walk down a street with a dog as big as a lion attached to a thin peice of leather, absolutely crazy and anybody who says they can predict a dog's actions 100% of the time is a bit deluded

To all the staffy owners that love em and think they're great with kids, they are or until recently were responsible for more attacks on children than all other breeds of dog put together... They can't all have had bad owners

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I would actually say in the last 10 to 20 years in the UK staffies did generally get a reputation for being aggressive and therefore attracted owners with that mentality in the same way as flying the st. george cross was associated with racism which stopped many proud englishmen from flying their flag.

When you look at the figures you have to consider how many are cross breeds which can be a lot less predicatable the pure breeds.

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Evidence?

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Popular breed here. I brought my 4 Staffords out with me, used Overhills first class treatment :)

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We love them here, my avatar, is a mates, Staffie with his favourite squeeky toy stuffed in his gob, great dogs and good family defenders .......MM:thumbup:

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Hair splitting... if the dog is a pure bred American Pitbull or not is utterly irrelevant. We all know what types of dogs can be overly aggressive and the 'pit bull type' sits firmly at the top of that tree.

I find it bizarre that people can fully except that other humans can unexpectedly attack people for no obvious reason, but will roll out that clapped out line of "my dog would never do anything like that".

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Pit Bulls are generally dog aggressive a not human aggressive. Rottweilers, Dobermans, German Shepherds tend to be more human aggressive. I agree with you though, animals can be unpredictable and these dogs require the owners to be very responsible.

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Some dogs attacks may be out of the blue.My dog has just had a fit and when we took her to the garden for fresh air she did not know us or where she was and bit me which is very out of character.

A lot of the attacks are because some owners are drawn to certain types of dog who do not know how to treat or train them and are often cruel to them.Then all the responsible owners of these breeds are treated as if they are idiots by some.Sue.

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There is some irony in this statement but it is true. Pit bulls were bread on their traits that they would be agressive towards other dogs, and not towards humans.

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Bought our fella over from blighty - Max (yes as mad as the rest!)

Mine falls true to this. Gets on with 'some' dogs, but takes a keen disliking to others. Humans he just goes crazy for and could prob only kill one by kissing them to death!

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