JoeBloggs80

I thought he looked extremely nervous. Aside from a few obvious pre-prepared answers it was like he was sh*t scared of saying something that could be turned against him. Pretty typical of this vacous campaign (from both sides) as a whole.

Amazulu

I think you have just described most politicians since the dawn of politics!

MartinLuther

I only got it because of HBOS going tits up in the UK. I moved money out of BankWest (just in case) and it ended up in a term deposit which lowered my income enough that year that I fell into FTB territory.

At the end of the day it was more of a tax rebate than a handout for me

JoeBloggs80

lol, true. The better ones just have a better front. Abbott just seriouly lacks gravitas in my opinion.

Deancm_MKII

And you don't know that the stimulus was needed either. Australia's economy may be tied to the western financial markets but it is reliant on China.

MartinLuther

Not a claim I made. You must have made that up.

balkanghost

Last night Lateline ABC had two independents from regional electorates (who may hold balance of power) who made more sense than Labor and Liberals, and support Big Australia, and complained bitterly about the population debate and focus only upon western Sydney and Melbourne when regional Australia is crying out for people.....

keel

[QUOTE=Amazulu;8781735]Every boat person taken in by Australia is a f**k you to a genuine asylum seeker who has been sitting in a refugee camp for years, with all the shit that entails, but going through the proper system (UNHCR, Aussie authorities etc). Fact is, most people who have come here through the UNHCR are against allowing boat people in, and most of the ones who are citizens are going to vote for Abbott because of this. My wife does voluntary work for an agency that deals with these people and this is what they are telling her.

I would take NO boat people but increase the quota of UNHCR people.[/QUOTE]

Steady on there Zulu. I think you've been standing outside on that minesite for to long without a hat.

Keel

IvanM

They need to make the regions more attractive and less xenophobic. Bob Katter is an interesting character. He makes Barnaby Joyce look quiet and measured.

THR

I think the fair deal is to let Abbott try to form a government. If that fails then have another election. After all ANP got one more seat than ALP.

It is exactly cases like this one why I oppose the idea of fixed-term parliaments.

NedKelly

They should get rid of preferences. The LNP wold win by a mile then instead of the rigged system that allows the Greens to give their vote to labor.

ABCDiamond

The Primary Voting as at 9:30am Sunday 22 August, after 10,968,438 of the total 14,088,260 votes, had been counted was:

Liberal National Party 4,464,914 43.14%
Australian Labor Party 3,986,298 38.51%
The Greens 1,183,386 11.43%

Those percentages equate to the following number of seats, if purely done on primary vote numbers:

• 66 Liberal National Party
• 59 Australian Labor Party
• 17 The Greens
• 4 Independent
• 3 Family First
• 1 CDP Christian Party

However, because of the preference system, many unhappy voters place their REAL vote in 2nd place, knowing that their protest vote in no 1 spot will not actually be counted, and therefore the real vote will count. But the Party will see the backlash that they wanted to show.

In this election, the Greens seem to have done quite well from that protest vote though

fish.01

Labor would then just form an alliance with the greens and have them as their loopy left wing, just like the liberals have already had to do with the nationals to get past Labor

fish.01

Playing your game they could count up the left wing votes versus the right wing votes:

Right wing = 4,464,914 + a few fundies = 4,500,000
Left wing = 3,986,298 + 1,183,386 = 5169684

And the winner is

NedKelly

A buggered up economy!