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redlion May 24th 2006 7:52 pm

Refused
 
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

benny the ball May 24th 2006 8:02 pm

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Shit luck. Wait and see what your agent finds out though, you never know. Fingers crossed for you! :(

rpa34 May 24th 2006 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.


Sorry to hear this Nev; can imagine you must feel pretty distraught. Did they give a reason for the refusal or is it simply through lack of points? Hope the appeal proves successful; how long does that process take?

Keep positive and I have fingers crossed for you. Hope all your efforts will soon be rewarded.

Ros

The Koalas May 24th 2006 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Hi Nev
What an awful shock for you, I have no idea where you go from here, just wanted to say keep your self positive and see what others may advise. I will watch your post for any good news mate.
Sending you karma as I type.

Eric the viking

paka May 24th 2006 8:03 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

we were refused are TRA first time around,you just re-apply with more details.Go it to greater depth with your job description.A lot of people get refused because of this,then get given it when they re-apply.good luck

mumomonty May 24th 2006 8:05 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Hey Nev, make sure you do appeal. I've been there 4 times over 13 years - we did get a chance to appeal once but didn't appeal so don't miss out. We did get in eventually.
At the time them saying no made us jump higher etc.
Don't give up if it is more than a whim.
\Mumo

mark 'n' joe May 24th 2006 8:06 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.


Oh shit Nev. Dont give up on your dream. Appeal and see what happens. Did they give a reason for refusing it?


All the best.

Joex

TeresaG May 24th 2006 8:07 pm

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Sorry to hear that.

Don't give up though and send in that appeal.

spaceys May 24th 2006 8:12 pm

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Originally Posted by TeresaG
Sorry to hear that.

Don't give up though and send in that appeal.


I have read lots of threads where people have failed first time round so don't give up. Were just getting ready to send ours off just some certifying to do then its off :)

Fingers crossed for you, it might just be that you didnt supply enough info

Tracey

madsad May 24th 2006 8:13 pm

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Sorry to hear your news,having gone through so many ups & downs with our visa i do sympathise with how your feeling.
But dont let it beat you,look back at the many success stories of failed TRA applications on here,how they appealled & won, it may help you to think positively again.
Also your agent would not go to the lengths he is going to if he didnt honestly think you didnt have a chance of getting your TRA.

Best of luck & keep your chin up x

Donna.

moneypenny20 May 24th 2006 8:22 pm

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Yup try and stay positive, loads of people have to do it more than once and then get through, they just want even more info whether you think that's possible or not :eek:

Good luck and make sure your agent gives you the right information about what TRA said and what to do :rolleyes:

Wendy May 24th 2006 8:23 pm

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Nev I'm gutted for you.

Get that appeal in and if they still say no, get more stuff together and apply again. You can do it, I know you can

djfbug May 24th 2006 8:26 pm

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I realy feel for you mate - I have gone through the gut wrenching of if? will? what if? Stick with it I am sure all will turn out well in the end

mick69 May 24th 2006 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Stay positive Nev and get that appeal in!!
Good luck with it
Lynne

vb2 May 24th 2006 8:34 pm

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ah dont worry mate, we failed first time also
just jump right back on that horse and do the whole again
appeal is a waste of time if you ask me as you cant submit more info (unless of course its a mistake on their part, but they wouldnt admit anyway!!)
simply get as much as you can re information together even the simple stuff and the same stuff you would use as if appealing - pay the price again and try again
second time lucky hey!!
good luck
vb2

Loubags May 24th 2006 8:36 pm

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As others have said - try and stay positive. Get as much info as you can about why they have come to that decision and then you will be able to appeal, or reapply. Don't give up - you've worked so hard for your dream and you'll get there. All the best.
Lou

Ransi May 24th 2006 8:40 pm

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Gutted for you mate...chin up :)

Luma May 24th 2006 8:40 pm

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Gee that is rubbish!

Hope you can get a successful appeal.


Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.


redlion May 24th 2006 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by rpa34
Sorry to hear this Nev; can imagine you must feel pretty distraught. Did they give a reason for the refusal or is it simply through lack of points? Hope the appeal proves successful; how long does that process take?

Keep positive and I have fingers crossed for you. Hope all your efforts will soon be rewarded.

Ros

Thankyou for that, its something to do with my RAF write up, i do make the points.

Nev.

gsb May 24th 2006 8:44 pm

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Hi Nev

Dont give up. There is always a way, Really sorry to hear your news. But I would not take it as a sign. When we started on the roller coaster we were told by a migration agent (a so called expert) that we could not get in. As it happens I did the whole thing myself and...well....the rest they say is history.

I really feel for you mate, but keep going.

All the best. G n T



Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.


redlion May 24th 2006 8:47 pm

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Thank you all for you messages of support and encouragement, it does help. I will be appealing because this is not a whim, this is for real, we all want this my ten year old included so much that it hurts, i suppose thats why it was such a shock to get the call this morning, i suppose i always knew there was a possibilty of refusal but it doesnt make it any easier. I will kepp you informed of further outcome.


Thanks again.

Nev.

phoenixinoz May 24th 2006 8:52 pm

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I am so sorry to hear you have been refused your TRA results and you must be feeling like the bottom has fallen out of your world at the moment :(

But you know what mate, this is just one hurdle amongst many that are going to be testing your resolve. Half of the battle re emigrating, is having the balls to get through each and every obstacle that's put in your place. Jeez.....if you ask people how the emigrating process went for them I bet the majority will tell you they felt like they'd run the grand national with three legs broken:(

As everyone has said so far, don't give up or give in. You haven't exhausted the process yet mate and if you're really serious about this...then bloody fight it all the way cos it'll be all the more sweeter for having fought for it!

Good luck and all the best ;)

john_w May 24th 2006 9:02 pm

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Shit mate ..just what you don't want to hear!! All I can say is put your appeal in and find out what more they want from you.Stay possitive and get the TRA stuff out again and add more detail. Dont give up yet mate ..your not the first person to fail the TRA first time, I know its all a pain in the arse but its got to be worth it in the long run.

ElshaUK May 24th 2006 10:01 pm

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Lots of good advice from people in here :) Just wanted to say 'Keep positive and appeal' If you make the points then surely you can re-word something in your application and re-submit.

Good Luck!

:)

CasG May 24th 2006 10:05 pm

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Sorry to hear that Nev....

Have a few days to get your head straight...and then get that appeal in.
Don't give up.

Don't know if you have done this - but might be worth putting this in the Aus Immigration forum ...couple of agents reguarly go in there, and have been very helpful to people.

Nicky & Dave May 24th 2006 10:23 pm

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Originally Posted by carolinegorka
Sorry to hear that Nev....

Have a few days to get your head straight...and then get that appeal in.
Don't give up.

Don't know if you have done this - but might be worth putting this in the Aus Immigration forum ...couple of agents reguarly go in there, and have been very helpful to people.


Really feel for you and your family, Nev. Ditto to all the above - this is not the end of the road by a long stretch, so don't even think about giving up and get that appeal in.

Nicky

redlion May 24th 2006 11:13 pm

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Originally Posted by carolinegorka
Sorry to hear that Nev....

Have a few days to get your head straight...and then get that appeal in.
Don't give up.

Don't know if you have done this - but might be worth putting this in the Aus Immigration forum ...couple of agents reguarly go in there, and have been very helpful to people.


Thanks caroline i will do that.

Nev.

robos May 24th 2006 11:24 pm

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i have heard quite a few get refussed first time but when they apply again with further evidence they pass

good luck mate we are routing for you

keep us posted

jan xx:D :D

cranni May 24th 2006 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Thanks caroline i will do that.

Nev.

Hi there, so sorry for you, we went through a lot to get here, 1 st visa was family sponsor they letus down,too old and scared.
Then the points went up , so we could not go to Perth, then got sponsor in Perth but they lost a big contract so that fell through.
BUT we never gave up.
We rang round gas/plumbing firms in WA south west and got a sponsor.
We had to come regional for 2 years, but we love it here, some things are meant to be.
Could you get a sponsor.
NEVER give up you will get here.
Good luck!
Denise

katsmajic May 24th 2006 11:34 pm

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Keep your chin up, and go for the appeal.Best of Luck xxx

redlion May 24th 2006 11:38 pm

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Originally Posted by cranni
Hi there, so sorry for you, we went through a lot to get here, 1 st visa was family sponsor they letus down,too old and scared.
Then the points went up , so we could not go to Perth, then got sponsor in Perth but they lost a big contract so that fell through.
BUT we never gave up.
We rang round gas/plumbing firms in WA south west and got a sponsor.
We had to come regional for 2 years, but we love it here, some things are meant to be.
Could you get a sponsor.
NEVER give up you will get here.
Good luck!
Denise


Yes got no probs with sponsor, its my aunt and in fact i spoke on the phone with her this morning and there is no probs with that. I know its not the end of the world but it was like a kick in the guts this morning after all the work i have been doing and the effort we have put in as a family, im sure it will be fine i just need a bit of a boost thats all.

Many thanks.

Nev.

cranni May 24th 2006 11:42 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Yes got no probs with sponsor, its my aunt and in fact i spoke on the phone with her this morning and there is no probs with that. I know its not the end of the world but it was like a kick in the guts this morning after all the work i have been doing and the effort we have put in as a family, im sure it will be fine i just need a bit of a boost thats all.

Many thanks.

Nev.

what i meant was can you get a work sponsor, are you going regional.
chin up

Clippy May 24th 2006 11:43 pm

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Nev I've already answered the post in the immi forum but just wanted to say again how sorry I am for you. Give yourself a few days then get back on the bandwagon.

I think Denise was referring to being sponsored by a Company - I think that way you don't have to do a skills assessment at all (I'm not 100% sure on this but think that's right).

mick_newcastle May 24th 2006 11:47 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Have sent you a PM mate and some Karma - best wishes
Mick ;)

onepearlyb May 25th 2006 12:14 am

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Hi Nev,

Glad to hear your not giving up. I'm almost resigning myself that I'll fail on the medical ( previous health history ) but I wont be giving up there. I'll just try for another visa subclass or something.
I don't see how anyone can give up once you've applied as it all takes so much organisation,cash and committment - it's not as if it's just a passing phase.
Let us know what happens and remember there's other ways of getting in whether it be other visa subclasses or waiting a bit longer! ( although that one is particularly tricky, it's one I myself may have to consider )

*pearly*

cranni May 25th 2006 12:18 am

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Originally Posted by onepearlyb
Hi Nev,

Glad to hear your not giving up. I'm almost resigning myself that I'll fail on the medical ( previous health history ) but I wont be giving up there. I'll just try for another visa subclass or something.
I don't see how anyone can give up once you've applied as it all takes so much organisation,cash and committment - it's not as if it's just a passing phase.
Let us know what happens and remember there's other ways of getting in whether it be other visa subclasses or waiting a bit longer! ( although that one is particularly tricky, it's one I myself may have to consider )

*pearly*

Just across the water, we are from Heysham

worzel May 25th 2006 12:33 am

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Sorry to hear that mate. If you want it bad enough you will make it happen.

Perthforme May 25th 2006 1:41 am

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Loads of people have failed tra 1st time round , then passed 2nd time !
Where theres a will theres a way , good luck !

kch May 25th 2006 12:38 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Sorry to hear that, gutted for you!! :( As others said, some people failed the 1st or even the 2nd time, but got a pass at the end. So don't give up, stay positive, fingers crossed for you Nev!! YOU CAN DO IT!!! :)

sonu dua May 25th 2006 7:29 pm

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Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Hi Nev

I've also been refused by TRA in first take cause TRA phoned at my workplace for verification and someone from my workplace passed wrong information :eek: and my application was refused then i sent application again with evidence (on which they refused in first take) and they cleared my application in second take. So ask your agent on which basis they reject your application.

Thnx
SONU


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