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DollyDaydream May 25th 2006 7:39 pm

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Hi Nev,

I feel gutted for you.

Due to various reasons (don't want to get banned for slagging off people by spilling the beans but let's just say our agent didn't give us the best advice :mad: ) but we've done 3 skills assessments. Anyway, after doing an RPL (not submitted), a TRA (not submitted), and then our third assessment (RPL) this one actually made it to the ACS and we passed. We've been despondent, we've been told by 2 agents that we wouldn't pass an assessment and (eventually :rolleyes: we did). However dire it may look now, there is always hope, we are living proof of that.

Chin up mate,

D D xx

martynm May 25th 2006 8:18 pm

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Where there's a will there's always a way.....keep going mate.

upthehammers May 25th 2006 8:27 pm

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Hi mate,What has your agent said this morning ? I really hope it is something that you can sort out.Dont give up keep going i am sure you will find a way.Keep us posted.nikki

M J May 25th 2006 8:39 pm

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Nev ...im a great believer in ...if you want something enough you can make it happen.I agree that this should make you think ...right you *uggers ....and appeal and then if that fails ...give them what it is they need whether it be more info or a better reference. You will do it.Dont let it get you down for long you will only be wasting time.
Im only just starting out on ours i at this early stage i can only imagine how i would feel...just the same. So good luck...go get em !!!! ;)

lisabarber May 25th 2006 8:43 pm

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Originally Posted by M J
Nev ...im a great believer in ...if you want something enough you can make it happen.I agree that this should make you think ...right you *uggers ....and appeal and then if that fails ...give them what it is they need whether it be more info or a better reference. You will do it.Dont let it get you down for long you will only be wasting time.
Im only just starting out on ours i at this early stage i can only imagine how i would feel...just the same. So good luck...go get em !!!! ;)

i agree keep going, you need to give it another shot, pursue it now, shows you are determined. :)

lisabarber May 25th 2006 8:44 pm

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Originally Posted by lisabarber
i agree keep going, you need to give it another shot, pursue it now, shows you are determined. :)

you are a red, so plan b it works for us liverpool supporters everytime, shoot, you score. :beer:

herrchook May 25th 2006 8:54 pm

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So sorry to hear your news. I can sympathise as we got a call like that last year when Victoria rejected us for sponsorship. I was so gutted I couldn't even post on here to tell everyone for 2 weeks :eek:

But, we eventually dusted ourselves down, had a rethink and are working hard to reapply in the next couple of weeks. Some people say, if you want something hard enough it'll happen. Not so sure about that one myself, BUT, I do believe that if it's at all possible (and it sounds like in your case it is) then it's worth fighting for.

Hope you agent is able to find out enough to either aid a successful appeal or to help you get the info you need for a new submission.

Don't give up :D

karenjc May 25th 2006 9:11 pm

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Hope it all works out for you. Good luck :beer:

Irish Aussie Teen May 25th 2006 9:19 pm

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Better luck next time.Feelin for ya! :)

Toppa May 25th 2006 9:20 pm

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I thought there was a shortage of train drivers in NSW?

Lewis Lapthorn May 25th 2006 9:26 pm

Re: Refused
 
The main issue here Nev is with your agent.

If they're credible and possess the necessary knowledge, they should never have taken your money and submitted the application.

geordie mandy May 25th 2006 10:30 pm

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So sorry to hear your news i hope you are successful with your appeal.
Mandy

astonished May 26th 2006 1:21 am

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Both Sydney and Melbourne have an emergency shortage of train drivers i suggest you contact the rail authorities in both states direct. both on net.

Rachel & Paul May 26th 2006 1:25 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Nev,
Keep your chin up, I know its hard but appeal and send off more info and show them you can do it!!!! We all know you will get in, see you out there mate!!!!!!!!!!

Karma sent mate.

Regards,
Rachel & Paul

Jonahs_mummy May 26th 2006 3:34 am

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Oh Nev - gutted for ya!
Let us know what your agents says once he has spoken to the TRA mate!

Thinking of you!! We know how you feel as we also failed the first time as Chef.

Claire & Steve

redlion May 26th 2006 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by upthehammers
Hi mate,What has your agent said this morning ? I really hope it is something that you can sort out.Dont give up keep going i am sure you will find a way.Keep us posted.nikki


We havent given up, I have calmed down a little now, still feel a little empty but i also know its not the end of the world, i just suppose we all know how much effort we have put into this thing. The agent did contact me but unfortunately only to tell me that he had tried twice to call but got an answer machine, he will try again on monday. Watch this space.


Nev.

kellyjs May 26th 2006 5:39 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

KEEP TRYING! I was refused first time round for my skills assessment. I waited a year then tried again. 5 years on I am on the brink of getting my visa. Never say never and all the best x

Sandra May 26th 2006 5:41 am

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Sorry I have not read every thread response....what skill are you applying under............you stated two jobs, but cooking every day when you could??

stutess May 26th 2006 6:50 am

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I'm gutted for you, I want to nip up to you and give you all a big hug,If I can do anything or you want a chat or help in anyway PM me and we can chat on the phone, I'll give you our number
Tess xxxxxxxx

Louise M May 26th 2006 6:52 am

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Don't give up Nev. You'll get there in the end!
Lou x

Sandra and Jim May 26th 2006 7:25 am

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Sorry to hear that. Keep trying and appeal.

Good luck
Sandra

andicee May 26th 2006 7:28 am

Re: Refused
 
Gutted mate. Appeal, appeal, appeal.

Good luck

suebrennan May 26th 2006 7:58 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Sorry to hear your news. My advice would be reapply and try to find out as much as you can re the documentation required for a successful TRA in your field before re submitting. One thing that concerned me was the fact that you are using an agent - surely they should have known that the application contained the correct data in the first instance? Is this not what you pay them for?

I was at a meet up last weekend and you would be amazed at the hoops and loops that some people have to go through to get a visa so if you want to live in Oz - get some good advice - dust yourself off and apply again.

Sue

Margaret2 May 26th 2006 8:33 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Just read this mate, gutted for ya, on a positive note it does seem lots of peeps on here have had similiar problems but manged to resolve it. :)
Keep positive and keep trying :)

But for now, have a good weekend and go out for a few :beer:

redlion May 26th 2006 8:50 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by suebrennan
Sorry to hear your news. My advice would be reapply and try to find out as much as you can re the documentation required for a successful TRA in your field before re submitting. One thing that concerned me was the fact that you are using an agent - surely they should have known that the application contained the correct data in the first instance? Is this not what you pay them for?

I was at a meet up last weekend and you would be amazed at the hoops and loops that some people have to go through to get a visa so if you want to live in Oz - get some good advice - dust yourself off and apply again.

Sue

Thanks Sue, in fairness to the agent he said he was as confused as we are because he has never had a refusal in our circumstances, hence he wants to speak to the person handling our file, anyway he tried today but no luck, just got answer machine but he will try again on monday. I will say that the agents we are using have very good press on this site thats why we chose them but i dont really want to get into the naming game. I must say that all the lovely messages from peeps has been a real comfort and im sure we will sort this out and laugh at it later.

Thanks again.


Nev.

Lewis Lapthorn May 26th 2006 9:03 am

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Originally Posted by kellyjs
KEEP TRYING! I was refused first time round for my skills assessment. I waited a year then tried again. 5 years on I am on the brink of getting my visa. Never say never and all the best x

There you go Nev, thank fck for that.

Keep trying, and in only 5 years, you might be on the brink of a visa as well. :scared:

Get hold of your agent by the bo!!ocks (or throat if a women), and squeeze very hard until:

a. They give you a satisfactory answer to why they took your money and submitted the application without the knowledge of this rejection was a strong possibility based on your circumstances.

and.....

b. They give you a satisfactory answer on alternatives - without stinging you for more cash.

Who did you use?

suebrennan May 26th 2006 9:04 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Thanks Sue, in fairness to the agent he said he was as confused as we are because he has never had a refusal in our circumstances, hence he wants to speak to the person handling our file, anyway he tried today but no luck, just got answer machine but he will try again on monday. I will say that the agents we are using have very good press on this site thats why we chose them but i dont really want to get into the naming game. I must say that all the lovely messages from peeps has been a real comfort and im sure we will sort this out and laugh at it later.

Thanks again.


Nev.


Nev

Best of luck and post an update as and when.

Sue
:)

Bookie May 26th 2006 10:00 am

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Hey sorry to hear your news, but don't despair. There are quite a few of us who failed first time round but are now the proud owners of visas. I know how awful the feeling is, you feel all your dreams are in tatters, but you WILL get through it and what you are feeling now will be a distant bad dream.
Here's hoping your agent can come up with some good news for you.
Keep the faith
Sue

funkybuddah May 26th 2006 12:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Louise M
Don't give up Nev. You'll get there in the end!
Lou x

So sorry and absolutley gutted for you. I'll keep my fingers crossed and wish you all the luck. xx

framac May 27th 2006 2:44 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

Nev, don't let the ba*****s grind you down. Get a carry-out, drown your sorrows and find every bit of info you can lay your hands on and go again.
All the best. I know what your going through
Franny

colin_z1 May 27th 2006 3:55 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Got a phone call this morning from our agent to tell me that my TRA application has been refused. My whole world collapsed right there and then. I have been working at two jobs for the past year specifically for the visa, my 'normal' job is train driver but i have been cooking on virtually every day off so that i can qualify for the visa, now it seems that might have been a total waste of my time and effort. The agent says that we can appeal and he will speak directly to TRA immediately and get back to me by tomorrow morning but that doest stop me feeling like i have been repeatedly kicked in the stomach, I am just in a daze at the moment i dont know what to think or say. Where the hell do i go from here? is this a sign for us to just forget it or what? god i just dont know what to do.


Nev.

I have helped a few people with their TRA application and one thing I am sure about is detail...they want lots of it.Try to put something together that is virtually a manual on the subject.If you are trying to get in as a chef dont just say "I prepare all types of vegetables including carrots, cabbage etc" expand on it a little. For example, tell them where you buy your ingredients, how you choose them, how to tell if they are fresh, the prices you expect to pay, how long you cook them for and how, what cookers you use including the make and model etc.Remember the TRA is for people with all the experience but without the qualification so they want to be sure you can do the job to a high level of expertise. Also, present it well, add a contents page, diagrams, references and anything you might feel will help you.
When my best friend did his we produced a thirty five page project with photos, diagrams, references etc and he was applying as a self employed paint sprayer and he was accepted first go so try again and be very detailed in everything you send them.

utopia May 27th 2006 4:04 am

Re: Refused
 

Originally Posted by redlion
Thanks Sue, in fairness to the agent he said he was as confused as we are because he has never had a refusal in our circumstances, hence he wants to speak to the person handling our file, anyway he tried today but no luck, just got answer machine but he will try again on monday. I will say that the agents we are using have very good press on this site thats why we chose them but i dont really want to get into the naming game. I must say that all the lovely messages from peeps has been a real comfort and im sure we will sort this out and laugh at it later.

Thanks again.


Nev.


Hi Nev,

Just wanted to say I am very sorry to hear you failed the TRA, but I just wanted to give you some words of encouragement.

In 1997 my Parents applied for immigration to Australia... under last remaining relative visa. All my Mums family is is Sydney so she wanted to join them, she did the application herself as well as the skills assessment for both herself and my Dad.

My Dad was refused as a welder.. My Mum passed hers as a Manager.
Things looked good, till there application was refused for immigration in 2000... The process took ages back and forth from Australia... not sure why but I believe it used to average about two years then :rolleyes:

To cut a long story short they appealed the decision and it was again rejected... then they decided to take it further with a hearing in Canberra.. (not sure of the ins and outs....)

The point is they never gave up... they eventually got there visa granted in 2002 and moved straight away... after I got married that is. They are now settled and doing better then ever before I am so proud of their determination!

What is ironic is I was on the intial Visa as I was under 18 so I was included on their Visa as part of the family. I actually turned down immigration because I had fallen head over heals in love with my now husband... and so I never went to Australia to validate the visa.

Now 4 years later... I have a family of my own and we hope to be in Australia at the end of this year...if all goes well that is.

Motto of this story is:
'never Give up in something you want and everything happens for a reason'!

Good Luck and God Bless..... Nev

Hope I have made you feel better :)


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