Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Dec 2nd 2014, 8:59 am
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Hi there,
Actually, you shoot him down, come on ;-)
Sorry to reply to this old post, but after reading it, I felt the need to respond !
I agree with you, why Au tax payers would pay for one who wants to migrate to Australia ?
But you may agree that Australia is looking for skilled people. This is a need. So, why Au tax payers would not pay for hiring skilled people that will create and make Australia a more competitive place ?
That said. I actually claimed my VISA cost. Three times, so the question may have a little bit of sense. It was temporary VISAs so it may not be the same procedure for a permanent one. But I got back full tax on each claim (around 35% of each VISA cost then). It was claimed as relocation expanse even if the two renew were made in the country -I mean without real relocation cost-.
Cheers
@J
Actually, you shoot him down, come on ;-)
Sorry to reply to this old post, but after reading it, I felt the need to respond !
I agree with you, why Au tax payers would pay for one who wants to migrate to Australia ?
But you may agree that Australia is looking for skilled people. This is a need. So, why Au tax payers would not pay for hiring skilled people that will create and make Australia a more competitive place ?
That said. I actually claimed my VISA cost. Three times, so the question may have a little bit of sense. It was temporary VISAs so it may not be the same procedure for a permanent one. But I got back full tax on each claim (around 35% of each VISA cost then). It was claimed as relocation expanse even if the two renew were made in the country -I mean without real relocation cost-.
Cheers
@J
Australia has a self assessment tax system, it means you are supposed to be honest when you claim expenses and many tax returns will never be checked. Do not take "getting away with it" to mean that it was tax deductible.
If your tax return is checked in the future and they find dubious expenses they will probably go back and check previous years and you will need to repay the tax and probably fines as well.
Dec 2nd 2014, 9:16 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Hi there,
I guess it is completely legal as it was approved by my HR team... They filled the form and sent it to smart salary.
And you may have read my post a bit too fast. Please note that the cost of the VISA was claimed through relocation expanse form -not tax return, which might be different than the way you think-. And approved by HR.
I guess they know what they are doing.
cheers
@J
I guess it is completely legal as it was approved by my HR team... They filled the form and sent it to smart salary.
And you may have read my post a bit too fast. Please note that the cost of the VISA was claimed through relocation expanse form -not tax return, which might be different than the way you think-. And approved by HR.
I guess they know what they are doing.
cheers
@J
Last edited by Juanito69; Dec 2nd 2014 at 9:28 pm.
Dec 2nd 2014, 10:06 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Hi there,
I guess it is completely legal as it was approved by my HR team... They filled the form and sent it to smart salary.
And you may have read my post a bit too fast. Please note that the cost of the VISA was claimed through relocation expanse form -not tax return, which might be different than the way you think-. And approved by HR.
I guess they know what they are doing.
cheers
@J
I guess it is completely legal as it was approved by my HR team... They filled the form and sent it to smart salary.
And you may have read my post a bit too fast. Please note that the cost of the VISA was claimed through relocation expanse form -not tax return, which might be different than the way you think-. And approved by HR.
I guess they know what they are doing.
cheers
@J
You also didn't say you claimed through a relocation expense form. You said you got back taxes after claiming it as an expense. Not quite the same thing as salary sacrificing, now is it?
Dec 2nd 2014, 10:49 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I am no sure I understand your reply. Sorry.
in regards to visa or VISA, sorry I will use visa then, but you probably understand me very well.
So I said from the beginning that I claimed them as relocation expenses. I did not talk about a form, yes right. But as there is no relocation expense part in the tax return -from my knowledge- it was clear to me. Sorry to not have been. I am just trying to add some real experience here.
And yes it was considered as salary sacrifice if you ask my HR.
Also I ma new on this forum, so I hope I am not breaking any rule or whatever think that can be annoying to normal users. When I came through this topic, I was thinking that I had to write down my experience.
Also, it is exactly the same for all of my colleagues here.
Best regards
@J
in regards to visa or VISA, sorry I will use visa then, but you probably understand me very well.
So I said from the beginning that I claimed them as relocation expenses. I did not talk about a form, yes right. But as there is no relocation expense part in the tax return -from my knowledge- it was clear to me. Sorry to not have been. I am just trying to add some real experience here.
And yes it was considered as salary sacrifice if you ask my HR.
Also I ma new on this forum, so I hope I am not breaking any rule or whatever think that can be annoying to normal users. When I came through this topic, I was thinking that I had to write down my experience.
Also, it is exactly the same for all of my colleagues here.
Best regards
@J
Last edited by Juanito69; Dec 2nd 2014 at 10:53 pm.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:01 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I am no sure I understand your reply. Sorry.
in regards to visa or VISA, sorry I will use visa then, but you probably understand me very well.
So I said from the beginning that I claimed them as relocation expenses. I did not talk about a form, yes right. But as there is no relocation expense part in the tax return -from my knowledge- it was clear to me. Sorry to not have been. I am just trying to add some real experience here.
And yes it was considered as salary sacrifice if you ask my HR.
Also I ma new on this forum, so I hope I am not breaking any rule or whatever think that can be annoying to normal users. When I came through this topic, I was thinking that I had to write down my experience.
Also, it is exactly the same for all of my colleagues here.
Best regards
@J
in regards to visa or VISA, sorry I will use visa then, but you probably understand me very well.
So I said from the beginning that I claimed them as relocation expenses. I did not talk about a form, yes right. But as there is no relocation expense part in the tax return -from my knowledge- it was clear to me. Sorry to not have been. I am just trying to add some real experience here.
And yes it was considered as salary sacrifice if you ask my HR.
Also I ma new on this forum, so I hope I am not breaking any rule or whatever think that can be annoying to normal users. When I came through this topic, I was thinking that I had to write down my experience.
Also, it is exactly the same for all of my colleagues here.
Best regards
@J
You have fraudulently claimed expenses and because your return was not selected for review, you got away with it.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:06 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Come on. Do you even read my post. I might be unclear... So sorry if it is the case.
Could you, please, re-read and see that my HR claimed the expense. They are trained and skilled people.
Re-read as well to see that I specified that it was not through my tax return.
I was thinking to help here.
ANyway
Could you, please, re-read and see that my HR claimed the expense. They are trained and skilled people.
Re-read as well to see that I specified that it was not through my tax return.
I was thinking to help here.
ANyway
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:12 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Come on. Do you even read my post. I might be unclear... So sorry if it is the case.
Could you, please, re-read and see that my HR claimed the expense. They are trained and skilled people.
Re-read as well to see that I specified that it was not through my tax return.
I was thinking to help here.
ANyway
Could you, please, re-read and see that my HR claimed the expense. They are trained and skilled people.
Re-read as well to see that I specified that it was not through my tax return.
I was thinking to help here.
ANyway
Your company is perfectly entitled to claim back recruitment costs and any costs they incur associated with that, but you wouldn't even know about that.
And if you mean your company made you pay for the visa costs, but then declared it as their expense on their tax return thereby getting money back, then they committed tax fraud as they did not incur this cost.
Either way, what you are saying is fraud and I don't care how skilled your HR team is.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:19 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I think I was quite clear, and I think you did not read well -sorry-
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
Edit2- It is not through tax return !!!
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
Edit2- It is not through tax return !!!
Last edited by Juanito69; Dec 2nd 2014 at 11:23 pm.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:23 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I think I was quite clear.
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:25 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I think I was quite clear.
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
Edit2- It is not through tax return !!!
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
I am feeling really offended, so I guess I am better to stop writing now.
Regards
Edit- sorry if I offended you
Edit2- It is not through tax return !!!
The administrators of your salary sacrifice don't work for the government or the university. They work for the for profit financial advisors who run the salary sacrifice company. For example, I sacrifice through Smart Salary. I work for WA Health Dep't but they don't administer the fund - Smart Salary does.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:37 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Come on. Why I responded ? You know that. I have the feeling you just want to have the last word. I dont mind anyway.
I just said I got tax back on my visa cost "point". Not through tax return but through salary sacrifice via an application made in accordance with Human ressoruces.
I guess the initial poster doesnt care about how to claim. He just want to know if he can save a bit of money. He may actually so why, yes WHY, you want me to not respond to this post.... Come on.
Also, if you consider your reaction and others. You have to agree that it is an open discussion. But I think I am the first to put some real experience right here. Now you want to play with the word. Fine, I take the door and I apology for my mistake. Please accept them and dont burn me.
Best regards
@J
I just said I got tax back on my visa cost "point". Not through tax return but through salary sacrifice via an application made in accordance with Human ressoruces.
I guess the initial poster doesnt care about how to claim. He just want to know if he can save a bit of money. He may actually so why, yes WHY, you want me to not respond to this post.... Come on.
Also, if you consider your reaction and others. You have to agree that it is an open discussion. But I think I am the first to put some real experience right here. Now you want to play with the word. Fine, I take the door and I apology for my mistake. Please accept them and dont burn me.
Best regards
@J
Last edited by Juanito69; Dec 2nd 2014 at 11:43 pm.
Dec 2nd 2014, 11:42 pm
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
to Bermudashorts,
nope it was not the first time. So you really dont read my writings ;-)))
Read second post of 9h49 and post of Dorothy just before.
Anyway, thanks for discussing. And sorry. I am sure I am not clear all the way.
Have a nice day with or without tax ;-).
nope it was not the first time. So you really dont read my writings ;-)))
Read second post of 9h49 and post of Dorothy just before.
Anyway, thanks for discussing. And sorry. I am sure I am not clear all the way.
Have a nice day with or without tax ;-).
Dec 3rd 2014, 12:20 am
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
Unless I missed it no one asked if you are a UK resident and moved from the UK to Australia?
As each country is different, I can claim a lot back through my Canadian Tax not specifically the visa but flights, sale of house, etc. I can even claim back Canadian tax when moving between two locations outside of Canada.
As each country is different, I can claim a lot back through my Canadian Tax not specifically the visa but flights, sale of house, etc. I can even claim back Canadian tax when moving between two locations outside of Canada.
Dec 3rd 2014, 2:07 am
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
I think I was quite clear, and I think you did not read well -sorry-
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
So yes you can salary sacrifice your visa cost. Damned it, we are hundred to do that here. We work for the government and university... So HR may know very well their job. If not I would be very happy to send them to you.
In fact many people don't even have access to salary sacrificing. If you could and did, you are in a very lucky minority
Dec 3rd 2014, 2:54 am
#30
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Re: Reclaim tax on 186 visa
The OPs original question seemed a pretty reasonable one to me. There seem to be a gajillion things that can be deducted on your tax return in Australia as an employee, compared to virtually none in the UK. If you don't know ask. If you don't know on BE you better hope its a good question before you dare ask.
