Is it really that expensive to live in Oz?
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And that is exactly what you will do and love every minute of it.
We often stroll down to the beach after work, even in early spring and early winter when it is too cold to swim it is lovely just watching the children run around and in winter we wrap up, go down and watch the waves and wild life. All through the summer we have loads picnics at the village beach by the canals, by the estuary, in one of the many local parks and of course at any one of the dozens of beaches. We have had some great days enjoying the outdoors with friends-we all bring tents, umbrellas etc for shade, boards, snorkel sets, beach games etc and spend hours down there.
Barbecues are a regular occurrence we very rarely have mozzies in this neck of the woods and when we do we use repellent and a lamp. The 8:30 sunsets in summer are not an issue, we have external lighting so the kids still swim in the pool when it is dark and most evenings we sit out on our balcony, watch the sunset over the ocean and then enjoy the stars.
Just wanted to assure you that the life you are talking about is totally doable, that is not to say that those who disagree are lying just that it is a reality for us and hopefully will be for you too.
I agree with Amazulu this is a great place to live, work and raise a family in terms of lifestyle, income, safety, future prosperity and the beauty of the place. I wouldn't live any where else and yes I have traveled extensively (previous career show business 12 years touring world wide -except Antarctica).
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Example:
Bob n Cindy arrive Perth 2004 Exchange Rate $2.50 / Pound
Lisa n Del arive Perth 2004 Exchange rate $1.40 / pound
Now Bob n Cindy may have exchanged 30k
Lisa n Del may have exchanged 30k
But Bob n Cindy, albeit have more dollars to their pound , spend on the basis that everything is dilluted by 2.5 cos they are stuck in the exchange rate trap.
Lisa n Del, realise that their quid aint worth much more than their dollar, and spend money with that in mind.
Result 6 months later.
Bob n Cindy, are Skint, find everything isnt as cheap as they thought, and are heading back to uk.
Lisa n Del, suddenly start earning dollars, and as the exchange rate falls in favour of the Aussie Dollar, realise they are better off, dollr for pound + lifestyle.
Its a weird one to get your head around, but i find it hard to explain. I tried tho
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Really is a weird one, to get your head round.
Example:
Bob n Cindy arrive Perth 2004 Exchange Rate $2.50 / Pound
Lisa n Del arive Perth 2004 Exchange rate $1.40 / pound
Now Bob n Cindy may have exchanged 30k
Lisa n Del may have exchanged 30k
But Bob n Cindy, albeit have more dollars to their pound , spend on the basis that everything is dilluted by 2.5 cos they are stuck in the exchange rate trap.
Lisa n Del, realise that their quid aint worth much more than their dollar, and spend money with that in mind.
Result 6 months later.
Bob n Cindy, are Skint, find everything isnt as cheap as they thought, and are heading back to uk.
Lisa n Del, suddenly start earning dollars, and as the exchange rate falls in favour of the Aussie Dollar, realise they are better off, dollr for pound + lifestyle.
Its a weird one to get your head around, but i find it hard to explain. I tried tho
Ste
Example:
Bob n Cindy arrive Perth 2004 Exchange Rate $2.50 / Pound
Lisa n Del arive Perth 2004 Exchange rate $1.40 / pound
Now Bob n Cindy may have exchanged 30k
Lisa n Del may have exchanged 30k
But Bob n Cindy, albeit have more dollars to their pound , spend on the basis that everything is dilluted by 2.5 cos they are stuck in the exchange rate trap.
Lisa n Del, realise that their quid aint worth much more than their dollar, and spend money with that in mind.
Result 6 months later.
Bob n Cindy, are Skint, find everything isnt as cheap as they thought, and are heading back to uk.
Lisa n Del, suddenly start earning dollars, and as the exchange rate falls in favour of the Aussie Dollar, realise they are better off, dollr for pound + lifestyle.
Its a weird one to get your head around, but i find it hard to explain. I tried tho
Ste
Over here, and admittiedly I now earn more than I did in the UK, we can pretty much afford anything we want. Okay, I'll never have a Porsche or a $400k boat but pretty much everything else I can afford. As I am a pretty materialistic person, it's one of the great attractions of living here in Perth. High income - lower overall expenses = more disposable income.
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Yep.
Same here.
I think im looking at it, or trying to explain to UK residents > wannabe Ozzies
That their perception can and is sometimes based on the exchange rate, and similar scenario for 2 different sets of people, with slightly different variables, can produce weird results.
I totally agree with the materialistic thing.
I am so into bettering our life, and ploughing ahead on projects I would never have dreamed of in uk.
I am actually amazed, that by taking the plunge, you can reap the benefits.
Mind you I am after a Porsche, a 911 .. my ultimate car. But I will just make do with the Rolls.
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Same here.
I think im looking at it, or trying to explain to UK residents > wannabe Ozzies
That their perception can and is sometimes based on the exchange rate, and similar scenario for 2 different sets of people, with slightly different variables, can produce weird results.
I totally agree with the materialistic thing.
I am so into bettering our life, and ploughing ahead on projects I would never have dreamed of in uk.
I am actually amazed, that by taking the plunge, you can reap the benefits.
Mind you I am after a Porsche, a 911 .. my ultimate car. But I will just make do with the Rolls.
Rolls Kinardly
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Yep.
Same here.
I think im looking at it, or trying to explain to UK residents > wannabe Ozzies
That their perception can and is sometimes based on the exchange rate, and similar scenario for 2 different sets of people, with slightly different variables, can produce weird results.
I totally agree with the materialistic thing.
I am so into bettering our life, and ploughing ahead on projects I would never have dreamed of in uk.
I am actually amazed, that by taking the plunge, you can reap the benefits.
Mind you I am after a Porsche, a 911 .. my ultimate car. But I will just make do with the Rolls.
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Same here.
I think im looking at it, or trying to explain to UK residents > wannabe Ozzies
That their perception can and is sometimes based on the exchange rate, and similar scenario for 2 different sets of people, with slightly different variables, can produce weird results.
I totally agree with the materialistic thing.
I am so into bettering our life, and ploughing ahead on projects I would never have dreamed of in uk.
I am actually amazed, that by taking the plunge, you can reap the benefits.
Mind you I am after a Porsche, a 911 .. my ultimate car. But I will just make do with the Rolls.
Rolls Kinardly
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I'm off to the Alfa Romeo showroom after work.......
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But the reality is that the exchange rate hangs around 2.4 most of the time. the likes of 1.1 or 3 are few and far between. I usually use 2.5 (i.e double the $ price and double again) just as a reality check sometimes when I'm buying bigger stuff. Sometimes a $1000 sounds expensive but £400 (or even £440) may not.
At the end of the week, if I use 2.2. or 2.5, my weekly shopping is now (2007) about the same as it was (2004) in the UK without any loss of lifestyle.
At the end of the week, if I use 2.2. or 2.5, my weekly shopping is now (2007) about the same as it was (2004) in the UK without any loss of lifestyle.
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Hi Gilly, you might find this thread useful re. costs:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=507063
Re. having a good time for not much money - I have friends in both Sydney and Melbourne, as well as one in the wilds of TNQ, and they all tell me you can have a lot more fun, a lot more cheaply, than you can where I currently live and I would imagine where you live too. I'm told there is a lot more going on outdoors, FoC, etc., and leisure time is very relaxed - you're more likely to go to the beach, have a barbie with your mates or drink a few bottles of red at home than go to expensive places drinking champagne and cosmos.
Maybe I'm getting old (as are they, apparently!) but that's starting to appeal to me.
You don't sound like you're expecting Nirvana; that's a good start. Best of Luck.
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Re. having a good time for not much money - I have friends in both Sydney and Melbourne, as well as one in the wilds of TNQ, and they all tell me you can have a lot more fun, a lot more cheaply, than you can where I currently live and I would imagine where you live too. I'm told there is a lot more going on outdoors, FoC, etc., and leisure time is very relaxed - you're more likely to go to the beach, have a barbie with your mates or drink a few bottles of red at home than go to expensive places drinking champagne and cosmos.
Maybe I'm getting old (as are they, apparently!) but that's starting to appeal to me.
You don't sound like you're expecting Nirvana; that's a good start. Best of Luck.
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But the reality is that the exchange rate hangs around 2.4 most of the time. the likes of 1.1 or 3 are few and far between. I usually use 2.5 (i.e double the $ price and double again) just as a reality check sometimes when I'm buying bigger stuff. Sometimes a $1000 sounds expensive but £400 (or even £440) may not.
At the end of the week, if I use 2.2. or 2.5, my weekly shopping is now (2007) about the same as it was (2004) in the UK without any loss of lifestyle.
At the end of the week, if I use 2.2. or 2.5, my weekly shopping is now (2007) about the same as it was (2004) in the UK without any loss of lifestyle.
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Oh I shan't be giving it up completely, but at the moment we have a pretty shallow, hedonistic existence (the plus side to being unable to have kids
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I'm hoping Sydney is a lot les humid than Sg so I can get more fresh air, for one thing. I currently go from house to taxi to gym or shopping mall and back, most days.
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I'm hoping Sydney is a lot les humid than Sg so I can get more fresh air, for one thing. I currently go from house to taxi to gym or shopping mall and back, most days.
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