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Old Apr 2nd 2004, 2:25 am
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I listen to ABC in the ute a lot recently, which is serious radio and even the well educated broadcasters seem more laid back, there is less presumption and pomp in Australia. Noone wants to be seen to being opinionated. Interspersed with the occasional Australianism to break it up a bit of course. ;-)

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So is ABC a kind of less stuck-up version of BBC Radio 4 then?

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Also australians seem to construct sentences differently - again which all helps to the general easy going style.

It's all geared to 'negotiation'. Being 'personable' is very important in Australian culture. The first thing my new boss said to me at my interview - he heard me chatting to his staff - was "I can see you're personable". A mate of mine at work sees this as aussie blokes are pragmatic and opportunistic - doing lots of lstening and encouragement to see what could be in it for themselves - sounds cynical but probably true - and really a positive thing. My boss is a laugh - he comes over as really funny and agreeable - yet will be ***** this and forget that. Very astute.

I listen to ABC in the ute a lot recently, which is serious radio and even the well educated broadcasters seem more laid back, there is less presumption and pomp in Australia. Noone wants to be seen to being opinionated. Interspersed with the occasional Australianism to break it up a bit of course. ;-)

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What the hell do you put in your cup of coffee? Talk about rose-tinted spectacles...
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Old Apr 2nd 2004, 2:37 am
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So is ABC a kind of less stuck-up version of BBC Radio 4 then?

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ABC radio? Sure. If you equate 'downmarket, BBC wannabe' with 'less stuck-up'...
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if you want to hear some NZ accents and see their more 'relaxed' news and current affairs have a look at the clips on this page: http://onenews.nzoom.com/

gees, it looks and sounds so amateurish compared with serious UK broadcasts.
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Old Apr 2nd 2004, 2:55 am
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What the hell do you put in your cup of coffee? Talk about rose-tinted spectacles...
try giving a bit more mike.

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Old Apr 2nd 2004, 2:57 am
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Hello Mike...

1) I can't help what my new boss says to me. Do you create the same impression. Obviously not.(;-) I think.
2) I can't help what opinions my new colleague has- which I relate here (about personable and pragmatic people). They said this to me today, and they are an ex Pom who
has been here 14 years - unlike you they are staying.

Rose tinted glasses? I believe my success in Australia - and infact, in life, is largley attributable to my self-confidence, energy and 'winning attitude' which rubs off on people. My mother tells me that I was always like this even at an early age.
So they tell me anyway. In the main I make a habit of getting on with people. And I find that is not an unusual attribute in Australia.

So as some of your cronies say, "get over it" Mike. You are clearly not suited to living in Australia. I am not insulted, I am laughing at you.

Can you look in the mirror and hand on your heart say "I'm doing alright, I've done alright". It's a good feeling mate ;-)



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Originally posted by WBB
try giving a bit more mike.

you reap what you sow.


As a good old Essex Girl I detest the Essex accent but love the regional accents of the UK such as Yorkshire, Welsh, Geordie etc, if fact anything but Essex, my eldest son has just started reception year at school and now talks like Dick Van Dyke from the film " Mary Poppins" so I for one cannot wait for him to loose his British Accent and adopt the ozzie drawl.
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try giving a bit more mike.

you reap what you sow.
Well put mate. Mike you have to listen to people sometimes. Mate seriously, sometimes I look at this country (Australia) and think - it's not effing rocket science.....;-)

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Originally posted by jandjuk
gees, it looks and sounds so amateurish compared with serious UK broadcasts.
IPMSFL. I've noticed this and it makes me laugh - why I love the news over here, infact.

As far as I'm concerned - do the aussies and kiwis really give a stuff. The broadcasters I hear on the ABC radio seem to want to let rip a bit more but are holding back just to please a minority ..I get headaches when I listen to the UK broadcasters. Stop shouting!

 
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IPMSFL. I've noticed this and it makes me laugh - why I love the news over here, infact.

As far as I'm concerned - do the aussies and kiwis really give a stuff. The broadcasters I hear on the ABC radio seem to want to let rip a bit more but are holding back just to please a minority ..I get headaches when I listen to the UK broadcasters. Stop shouting!

I'm sure I heard something on BBC Radio 4 the other day about how the Aussie equivalent of the 'Today' programme is called 'AM', & it also had an 'Andrew Gilligan' equivalent, who uncovered alleged government 'mis-facts' about its involvement in Iraq.

Blimey. Is this true?

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Hello Badge...


Lordy, lordy!
2) I can't help what opinions my new colleague has- which I relate here (about personable and pragmatic people). They said this to me today, and they are an ex Pom who
has been here 14 years - unlike you they are staying.
Your boss obviously made it over the 12-year hump. Congrats! I thought you said that (sic) "Noone wants to be seen to being opinionated" in Oz - so does that mean your colleagues' opinions were conveyed to you in the dark?

Rose tinted glasses? I believe my success in Australia - and infact, in life, is largley attributable to my self-confidence, energy and 'winning attitude' which rubs off on people.
It certainly rubbed off on me. Which is why I'm back in the UK


So as some of your cronies say, "get over it" Mike. You are clearly not suited to living in Australia. I am not insulted, I am laughing at you.

Can you look in the mirror and hand on your heart say "I'm doing alright, I've done alright". It's a good feeling mate ;-)
I am happy for you that you're enjoying your job. But to make such positive generalisations about Oz workplace after...how many years exactly? As an aside, it also begs the question why you couldn't use your 'winning attitude' in the UK.

And the mirror? I say, "I did OK in Oz, but now - so far - I'm doing a lot better back in the UK."

And then my wife tells me to stop talking to myself
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Old Apr 2nd 2004, 7:41 am
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When l was in America a woman noticed my Australian accent and
said, " what country are you from?" and l said. "Australia"
then she said," What's it like living in the third world" and l replied
" l don't know l have'nt been living in America long enough to tell
you".
 
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In my job I tend to get asked every day where I'm from. A lot of aussies seem to think I'm Irish, but I'm a Barnsley lass and the yorkshire accent doesn't come stronger than that! I'm a bit too long in the tooth to adopt the aussie drawl but my kids turned into little aussies with the first month
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It really upsets these dammed colonials when you tell them if they cant understand proper english, then it might just be them that has the problem, and there is NOTHING wrong with OUR accents.
 
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I am finding it interesting that more people over here pick up the touch of the West Country burr ( and it is only a touch, honest ) I have got than back in the uk - and these are Kiwis - not poms.

When they say - where you from? and I say UK - they yes I know that but where in the UK? and I say Harrow they say oh, I thought it was the West Country somewhere and I have to admit to have being bought up in Gloucestershire.

The thing is, I don't think I have an accent at all and hubby reckons my mobile phone answer message is pure kiwi already so obviously my accent is feeling very at the moment!
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