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Old Sep 19th 2010, 1:49 pm
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Originally Posted by markbhx
Sorry mate but 8 years experience should be at least 100K + super + medical. I would reject that job without question, sounds like they are trying to screw you over.

I have 15 years IT experience in my field and wouldnt accept anything less than 140K + benefits.
Where are you located? And where was (country and profession) this 15 year experience gained?
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Old Sep 19th 2010, 2:17 pm
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How would you rate this job: an APS 6 level IT job in a government company (based in Melbourne) paying 75k plus 15.4% super?

Assume you have 8 years of work experience in the (IT) field.
Shit. My IT friends earn more than that.
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Old Sep 19th 2010, 2:25 pm
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Shit. My IT friends earn more than that.
This is a APS job, so rates are less. But super is 15.4%.
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Old Sep 19th 2010, 8:00 pm
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Sounds like it depends how desperate you are. Its not a great wage for 8 yrs experience - we all know that. If you're out of work and there is not much else about go for it
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Old Sep 20th 2010, 1:21 am
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Sounds like it depends how desperate you are. Its not a great wage for 8 yrs experience - we all know that. If you're out of work and there is not much else about go for it
how can any of you 'rate' it when you dont know what "IT" is in this context.

numpties.

Could be helpdesk, or the guy could be a SAP genius. Or could be printer engineer.
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Old Sep 20th 2010, 1:40 am
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The problem is, in Australia 'X years of experience' is meaningless if it's not AUSTRALIAN Experience [daft I know but everyone I talked who has come from overseas has been told the same thing]. First thing the agent told me when I arrived : "You need to get some Australian Experience". So the last 15 years working in London and overseas and all in technical roles means bugger-all then ?

If it's your first job in Australia go for it and stick it out for a year. After that you will find it much easier to go for other jobs.
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The problem is, in Australia 'X years of experience' is meaningless if it's not AUSTRALIAN Experience [daft I know but everyone I talked who has come from overseas has been told the same thing]. First thing the agent told me when I arrived : "You need to get some Australian Experience". So the last 15 years working in London and overseas and all in technical roles means bugger-all then ?

If it's your first job in Australia go for it and stick it out for a year. After that you will find it much easier to go for other jobs.
But is this really true though, or is it just a yarn that the agents like to spin time and time again....
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But is this really true though, or is it just a yarn that the agents like to spin time and time again....
It's true.
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Old Sep 20th 2010, 3:46 am
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But is this really true though, or is it just a yarn that the agents like to spin time and time again....
Yeah its a yarn. I got a job over the phone before i came here and all my UK experience counted plus some. Agents use it to suit themselves. Although i've been told UK experience counts wheras other countries experience won't - ie Indian experience etc. Terrible but thats the way it is
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Yeah its a yarn. I got a job over the phone before i came here and all my UK experience counted plus some. Agents use it to suit themselves. Although i've been told UK experience counts wheras other countries experience won't - ie Indian experience etc. Terrible but thats the way it is
Everyone's experience is different. Once I was in the door, most of the guys I was working with had worked in London etc. Other people have told me exactly the same thing so I wouldn't discount it. When we hire we WANT overseas experience if we can get it although it's not a show-stopper. All of our recent candidates have worked overseas including the hires.

I will 2nd the comment about where the experience is gained though.
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Depends who you are, how good you are and what the job is. Seems low to me though.

Incidentally I got a job over the phone with no Australian experience but 10 years in UK so haven't seen the problem with non-Australian experience. We too are interested in international experience when we recruit.....
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My questions are:

Have you actually been offered the position?

If not, you don't even know if the job is for real - they might have an internal candidate for whom this job was created.

If you have already been offered the job, what sort of role is it? What do you do in IT?

Is this going to be your first job in Australia? Have you been looking for a job for long? Is this the only offer after dozens of applications? Are you under financial pressure? If yes to all these questions, may be it's not that bad an offer. At least get yourself some local experience.

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Originally Posted by spalen
how can any of you 'rate' it when you dont know what "IT" is in this context.

numpties.

Could be helpdesk, or the guy could be a SAP genius. Or could be printer engineer.
Who cares what the 'it' is? I can rate what the hell I want, when I want.

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Old Sep 20th 2010, 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by markbhx
Sorry mate but 8 years experience should be at least 100K + super + medical. I would reject that job without question, sounds like they are trying to screw you over.

I have 15 years IT experience in my field and wouldnt accept anything less than 140K + benefits.
**** me!!! I need a pay rise! 20 years experience, and getting about the same amount as what you've quoted (ok I get overtime and more overtime and benefits, and more overtime). But still, someone with 8 years experience, getting paid that amount. Get a grip. Unless you can re-write SAP from the ground up or create a entire network ecosphere from the ground up, be very very grateful if you can get that job.

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Old Sep 20th 2010, 9:37 am
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Who cares what the 'it' is? I can rate what the hell I want, when I want.

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