Originally Posted by Aucklander

Originally Posted by Aucklander

Originally Posted by Amazulu

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

Originally Posted by Expat Kiwi

If you're sick of hearing about it
a. Stop reading it
b. Stop stirring it by asking loaded questions so you get the answers you want.

For the benefit of people who may be interested to know more than you're prepared to let them know about I'll say the following.

Why is it only outsiders (for want of a better word) that have this them-and-us attitude about the relationship between New Zealand and Australia?

Our two countries are family, literally. There are so many Kiwis living and raising families in Australia that its part of part New Zealand anyway so what's the big deal? We're like two trees that have intertwined and grown together over time. Look at our two flags, that should tell you how close we are. We're two parts of the same whole and mates not enemies. Stop being so darned territorial!

Movement between us is no big deal, people come and go as they need to and not all stay permanently. Many Kiwis come here to earn money when work is tight back home, stay for a few months and then flit back to NZ when the opportunities come back. Far better than going on the benny and the exchange rate at the moment so earning Oz dollars makes this a very attractive proposition. Back in 80s Britain this would've been called getting on yer bike - Norman Tebbitt style. You do remember him don't you? Here we get on the plane and follow the work.

You mentioned stamp duty but forgot to say that new arrivals here can claim first time buyer relief on the purchase of their home and didn't ask how people feel about that. Mostly people just deduct the cost of stamp duty from the house we're buying and haggle over the difference. Others have mentioned tax benefits so I won't go over these again.

I love my house here, its half as big again as my last home in New Zealand. They were both fairly new and built around the same time but this one is far more modern and is of a far higher spec. Its got fantastic insulation, high ceilings, a mighty powerful air conditioning system and catches the afternoon breezes on the upper floor like a dream.

As for cars I prefer the Australian system to New Zealand's. Here the roads aren't flooded with cheap secondhand Japanese imports of dubious provenance. If I'm buying secondhand I like to see things like accurate speedos, servicing log books, cabin signs in a language I can read, and an owner's manual is a big bonus. I also like to be able to check to see if it was an insurance write-off at some point in the past.

I like that all drivers here must have third party insurance and that I don't have to get a WOF every six months and can afford to get my car serviced properly instead. I hate that I have to pay CTP plus comprehensive insurance because can't see why Comp doesn't include CTP

You see these things are a lot more complex than you give them credit for.

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Amazulu has observed that luxury cars are cheaper because NZ has no luxury car tax. Apart from that exception, I don't see any evidence that cars are cheaper in NZ.

Originally Posted by EinsteinJ

I just want to moving there (Melbourne) within 1 week time . First reasons was because i liked it when i went holiday over there. I want to have mortgage in NZ but so afraid to loose my job, Or if i quit the job, i may not be able to get the same job in Auckland to support the mortgage. While in Melbourne, i can see there is an opening for at least 1 job every weeks.

regarding Nature, landscapes as well as clean air and water, there is no competition, New Zealand is the winner and i am proud of being an NZ Citizens .

But for job security i just cannot deny anymore that Aussie offer better opportunities. Even the support for working class is getting better in Aussie especially if you have babies.

Car and car's maintenance are expensive in Australia, but the petrol pretty good deals compared to NZ that has been for 2.10 per litre at the moment.

This is my opinion based on what i gathered from many sources.

To sum up, I love New Zealand, but now is getting more and more expensive. The hardest part is to find the same job with same wages if i quit the current job. But it is very hard (Maybe the market too small in Fabrication and manufacturing).

I hope in the future NZ will have stamp duty and taxes for someone that buying 2nd house or buying house for investment. I see that without these taxes, the affordabilities for someone that want to buy first house is getting fade.

Originally Posted by Aucklander

They were NOT LOADED

Originally Posted by Aucklander

Originally Posted by Aucklander

This was supposed to be a sensible question & a few have responded intelligently whilst all I can say for the other replies,

I am sorry you were ever allowed entry into my country. You certainly never passed any IQ test. Don't know where you hail from originally but I wish you would all go back.

Originally Posted by Fluid36

Second hand cars are MUCH cheaper in NZ as we have Jap imports Vash.

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede

Wow, somebody got up on the wrong side of the sheep today.

Australia has Japanese imports as well. Perhaps the difference is that most of ours are grey imports, while yours are kosher? Would that have an impact on pricing? I'm not sure how it all works.



I haven't been "professing the opposite." I've been asking a question, not making a statement.

Originally Posted by Fluid36

Second hand cars are MUCH cheaper in NZ as we have Jap imports Vash.

Originally Posted by bcworld

You have got a point there.

I always think 'pot, kettle' whenever he says that!

Originally Posted by Fluid36

But they will grow up a wanker.