Queensland public servants declare war on Newman
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Re: Queensland public servants declare war on Newman
Look at the thread title and you will see that yet again your post is totally irrelevant. Townsville is in Queensland.
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Re: Queensland public servants declare war on Newman
When did they have jobs up there?
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You have to love his logic really. Forensic Lab is overloaded with work, so whats the answer? Cut the number of jobs and outsource the work to private labs - who often ask the government lab to do their work cos they don't have the expertise or equipment.......
The John Tonge Centre, part of the Queensland government's Forensics and Scientific Services, has more than 450 staff and performs about 1200 autopsies each year.
It has provided toxicology information on several recent high-profile Queensland murder cases, including the alleged murder of Brookfield woman Allison Baden-Clay. It has analysed more than 400 drug labs, profiled more than 25,000 DNA samples and researches lyssavirus and Hendra virus.
Staff said outsourcing further work to commercial laboratories was inefficient because many of those commercial labs ended up asking the John Tonge centre staff to do the work for them.
"The LNP is looking to cut scientific staff at Forensics and Scientific Services and outsource testing to commercial labs," one staff member said in an email to brisbanetimes.com.au.
"However, the LNP is not taking into account that it is units within FSS who, in the public interest, recheck questionable work performed by labs such as (company name removed), or that it is specialised units within FSS that (company name removed), other government and private fee-paying clients outsource their work to, since there are no any other labs in Australia with the capacity or expertise to do so."
The John Tonge Centre, part of the Queensland government's Forensics and Scientific Services, has more than 450 staff and performs about 1200 autopsies each year.
It has provided toxicology information on several recent high-profile Queensland murder cases, including the alleged murder of Brookfield woman Allison Baden-Clay. It has analysed more than 400 drug labs, profiled more than 25,000 DNA samples and researches lyssavirus and Hendra virus.
Staff said outsourcing further work to commercial laboratories was inefficient because many of those commercial labs ended up asking the John Tonge centre staff to do the work for them.
"The LNP is looking to cut scientific staff at Forensics and Scientific Services and outsource testing to commercial labs," one staff member said in an email to brisbanetimes.com.au.
"However, the LNP is not taking into account that it is units within FSS who, in the public interest, recheck questionable work performed by labs such as (company name removed), or that it is specialised units within FSS that (company name removed), other government and private fee-paying clients outsource their work to, since there are no any other labs in Australia with the capacity or expertise to do so."
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Re: Queensland public servants declare war on Newman
And apart from anything else, they've got xxx thousands of dollars worth of equipment which will now presumably stand idle. It really is beyond ****wittery.
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This is an example. Doing this right you'd bring in more robots, so the simple testing stuff is automated and done cheaply. You'd then look at the most involved work to scope people to the need, and probably set up emergency sharing of work if random problems occurred.
You wouldn't expect commercial labs to be cheaper, because frankly why should they be? You already have the efficiencies of scale, and any management stupidities are exactly the type of thing you should be dealing with internally (bad management hangs around in outsourcing, screwing that up too). Outsourcing to overseas is not going to have the quality you need (this is probably the route they will try to take though).
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This is a thread about Newman and the damage he is doing to Queensland. If you weant to discuss employment in Bolton I'm sure there are better places to do that
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Its not an anti-Australian thread and there is no agenda about it. In fact my mood this week is pretty pro-Australia as I think I have managed to save my own employment status
This is a thread about Newman and the damage he is doing to Queensland. If you weant to discuss employment in Bolton I'm sure there are better places to do that
This is a thread about Newman and the damage he is doing to Queensland. If you weant to discuss employment in Bolton I'm sure there are better places to do that
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Re: Queensland public servants declare war on Newman
Looks good to the right wing press and some of
the monkeys who read it.
the monkeys who read it.
As I said at the beginning, to sensibly cut costs you have to be smart and go into detail about how things can be streamlined and simplified to reduce costs. Simple top slicing never works.
This is an example. Doing this right you'd bring in more robots, so the simple testing stuff is automated and done cheaply. You'd then look at the most involved work to scope people to the need, and probably set up emergency sharing of work if random problems occurred.
You wouldn't expect commercial labs to be cheaper, because frankly why should they be? You already have the efficiencies of scale, and any management stupidities are exactly the type of thing you should be dealing with internally (bad management hangs around in outsourcing, screwing that up too). Outsourcing to overseas is not going to have the quality you need (this is probably the route they will try to take though).
This is an example. Doing this right you'd bring in more robots, so the simple testing stuff is automated and done cheaply. You'd then look at the most involved work to scope people to the need, and probably set up emergency sharing of work if random problems occurred.
You wouldn't expect commercial labs to be cheaper, because frankly why should they be? You already have the efficiencies of scale, and any management stupidities are exactly the type of thing you should be dealing with internally (bad management hangs around in outsourcing, screwing that up too). Outsourcing to overseas is not going to have the quality you need (this is probably the route they will try to take though).
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I would say it is unbelievable but really it isnt.
You have to love his logic really. Forensic Lab is overloaded with work, so whats the answer? Cut the number of jobs and outsource the work to private labs - who often ask the government lab to do their work cos they don't have the expertise or equipment.......
The John Tonge Centre, part of the Queensland government's Forensics and Scientific Services, has more than 450 staff and performs about 1200 autopsies each year.
It has provided toxicology information on several recent high-profile Queensland murder cases, including the alleged murder of Brookfield woman Allison Baden-Clay. It has analysed more than 400 drug labs, profiled more than 25,000 DNA samples and researches lyssavirus and Hendra virus.
Staff said outsourcing further work to commercial laboratories was inefficient because many of those commercial labs ended up asking the John Tonge centre staff to do the work for them.
"The LNP is looking to cut scientific staff at Forensics and Scientific Services and outsource testing to commercial labs," one staff member said in an email to brisbanetimes.com.au.
"However, the LNP is not taking into account that it is units within FSS who, in the public interest, recheck questionable work performed by labs such as (company name removed), or that it is specialised units within FSS that (company name removed), other government and private fee-paying clients outsource their work to, since there are no any other labs in Australia with the capacity or expertise to do so."
The John Tonge Centre, part of the Queensland government's Forensics and Scientific Services, has more than 450 staff and performs about 1200 autopsies each year.
It has provided toxicology information on several recent high-profile Queensland murder cases, including the alleged murder of Brookfield woman Allison Baden-Clay. It has analysed more than 400 drug labs, profiled more than 25,000 DNA samples and researches lyssavirus and Hendra virus.
Staff said outsourcing further work to commercial laboratories was inefficient because many of those commercial labs ended up asking the John Tonge centre staff to do the work for them.
"The LNP is looking to cut scientific staff at Forensics and Scientific Services and outsource testing to commercial labs," one staff member said in an email to brisbanetimes.com.au.
"However, the LNP is not taking into account that it is units within FSS who, in the public interest, recheck questionable work performed by labs such as (company name removed), or that it is specialised units within FSS that (company name removed), other government and private fee-paying clients outsource their work to, since there are no any other labs in Australia with the capacity or expertise to do so."
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