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Old Dec 1st 2014, 10:25 pm
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In all states there are laws relating to who can perform the various building trades. No-one polices them, and to judge from the sale of plugs, sockets, light fittings, plumbing goods, etc from Bunnings and other hardware stores, a large proportion of the population just ignore them.
The only time doing it yourself will be a legal problem is if your dodgy work results in a fire or flood and your insurance company fails to pay out because of that.
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Originally Posted by KJCherokee
In all states there are laws relating to who can perform the various building trades. No-one polices them, and to judge from the sale of plugs, sockets, light fittings, plumbing goods, etc from Bunnings and other hardware stores, a large proportion of the population just ignore them.
Bunnings is nothing. You should see what you can buy off the shelf at Masters - distribution boards, 3-phase RCDs, breakers and welding outlets plus more. The kind of stuff that could only previously be bought at a specialised electrical supplier

I'm impressed
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I would say that without question that any electrical work done out of state would need to be re-certified by a locally accredited and licenced electrician, to ensure that it conforms with the new state's regulations...
And' I'd say that any work you had done by a state accredited and licensed electrician needs to get checked over by yourself - the quality of their work is seldom the best.

States would do better to give procedures and support to individuals and recognise that they are going to DIY - because tradies are too dodgy, too unreliable, and too expensive.
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Old Dec 1st 2014, 11:53 pm
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And' I'd say that any work you had done by a state accredited and licensed electrician needs to get checked over by yourself - the quality of their work is seldom the best.

States would do better to give procedures and support to individuals and recognise that they are going to DIY - because tradies are too dodgy, too unreliable, and too expensive.

I was being sarcastic

But yes, they do need to realise that people with skills will crack on and get stuff done. Unfortunately, as with speed limits and road rules, everything is legislated to the lowest common denominator so anybody with half a brain cell is held back by the halfwits that didn't pay attention.

Rewiring a plug is part of secondary education in the UK - here I don't think they even teach the basics of electricity - I meet so many people who simply have no idea of how it works or how to be safe around it.


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Originally Posted by Swerv-o

I was being sarcastic

But yes, they do need to realise that people with skills will crack on and get stuff done. Unfortunately, as with speed limits and road rules, everything is legislated to the lowest common denominator so anybody with half a brain cell is held back by the halfwits that didn't pay attention.

Rewiring a plug is part of secondary education in the UK - here I don't think they even teach the basics of electricity - I meet so many people who simply have no idea of how it works or how to be safe around it.


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My son did some basic electrical theory this year (year 6)

I was quite impressed with what they had to do

I was taught to rewire a plug at school

The UK has a more pragmatic approach to this. Under Part P, a home-owner can add to existing light and power circuits as long as they are not making final connections at the DB, although work in wet areas (kitchens and bathrooms) is not allowed

A lot of domestic electrical work is straightforward and common sense and I would urge anyone who can read and use basic hand tools to do the work themselves

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Originally Posted by Amazulu
My son did some basic electrical theory this year (year 6)

I was quite impressed with what they had to do

I was taught to rewire a plug at school

The UK has a more pragmatic approach to this. Under Part P, a home-owner can add to existing light and power circuits as long as they are not making final connections at the DB, although work in wet areas (kitchens and bathrooms) is not allowed

A lot of domestic electrical work is straightforward and common sense and I would urge anyone who can read and use basic hand tools to do the work themselves

In NSW it's a 'found committing' offence i.e. the authorities actually have to catch you red handed in the process of performing it yourself, so I would think that you would have to be pretty stupid to call ahead and tell them that you were doing it.

My GF has no idea about electricity though - she religiously goes around and switches power sockets to off if there's nothing in them - she believes that they could cause a fire if left switched on with nothing plugged in. I have pointed out many times that the EU and USA don't actually have switches on their sockets, but she still won't believe me


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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
In NSW it's a 'found committing' offence i.e. the authorities actually have to catch you red handed in the process of performing it yourself, so I would think that you would have to be pretty stupid to call ahead and tell them that you were doing it.

My GF has no idea about electricity though - she religiously goes around and switches power sockets to off if there's nothing in them - she believes that they could cause a fire if left switched on with nothing plugged in. I have pointed out many times that the EU and USA don't actually have switches on their sockets, but she still won't believe me


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That's the kind of person who shouldn't be doing electrical work!

I actually spoke to someone once who turned their sockets off to 'stop the electric leaking out'!
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
That's the kind of person who shouldn't be doing electrical work!

I actually spoke to someone once who turned their sockets off to 'stop the electric leaking out'!
I turn the unused ones off to stop dust collecting on top of the switch.
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I turn the unused ones off to stop dust collecting on top of the switch.
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"Domestic god" but thank you. (unknown term, until now), but yes.


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Well, I tried dusting with them beer on my rounds around the house, but it wasn't that successful. I had to keep on resetting the circuit breakers.
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"Domestic god" but thank you. (unknown term, until now), but yes.




Well, I tried dusting with them beer on my rounds around the house, but it wasn't that successful. I had to keep on resetting the circuit breakers.
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Only the newest had the option to set to Australia - the other is set to Germany which also seems to work
If it is set for Germany it should work in Australia for VHF channels which most are. Though Germany does not use LCNs so you will have allocate the channel positions manually. However set for Germany it almost certainly won't tune in the Australian UHF MUXES as Australia uses a non standard channel plan and bandwidth on UHF.
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If it is set for Germany it should work in Australia for VHF channels which most are. Though Germany does not use LCNs so you will have allocate the channel positions manually. However set for Germany it almost certainly won't tune in the Australian UHF MUXES as Australia uses a non standard channel plan and bandwidth on UHF.
Since I get the same channels on both TV's (and through the set top box) I have to assume that whatever the MUXES are, they're of no importance.
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Since I get the same channels on both TV's (and through the set top box) I have to assume that whatever the MUXES are, they're of no importance.
This is the list of MUXES in Adelaide:

Seven SAS6 177.500 Mhz 50.00 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal – TXA Crafers Site Tower 115…

SBS SBS7 184.500 Mhz 50.00 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal – Broadcast Australia Site…

Nine NWS8 191.500 Mhz 50.00 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal – NWS 9 site 109 Summit Road…

Ten ADS11 219.500 Mhz 50.00 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal – NWS 9 site 109 Summit Road…

ABC ABC12 226.500 Mhz 50.00 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal abc.net.au Broadcast Australia Site…

CTS33 564.500 Mhz 7.50 kW Omnidirectional Horizontal – Broadcast Austra

Channels 6, 7, 8, 11, and 12 in VHF which as I said you will get.
Channel 33 in UHF which you won't on your German set.
It could well be you not getting that on your other sets as well because it is lower power and perhaps you don't have a UHF aerial.

Can you confirm or otherwise you are getting this UHF MUX?
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