Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Jan 27th 2010, 9:05 am
#47
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Oh, I understand where they are coming from, of course. They don't want all the bad publicity (and injuries) that comes with further riots on Australia Day. Otherwise why aren't they out patrolling parks etc on the weekends? I just find it ludicrous that because a few ruin it, everyone has to be treated like a child.
Most rules in place around the world are there because of the minority in my opinion. I don't drink, other than maybe one or two beers in a week. Maybe if I drank more when out and about I'd not like the rules but because they don't affect me, I don't care.
Jan 27th 2010, 9:29 am
#49
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
They got the 'police volunteers' (on their uniforms) to hand out the leaflets while the actual police were a stone's throw away under their tent on the edge of the beach. So the leaflets were the warning before the fine - the 'good cop, bad cop' scenario if you will
Jan 27th 2010, 9:51 am
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Funny as in almost 10 years here I've never seen them before patrolling picnic areas and the like, whether it's at the beach, park etc.
They got the 'police volunteers' (on their uniforms) to hand out the leaflets while the actual police were a stone's throw away under their tent on the edge of the beach. So the leaflets were the warning before the fine - the 'good cop, bad cop' scenario if you will
They got the 'police volunteers' (on their uniforms) to hand out the leaflets while the actual police were a stone's throw away under their tent on the edge of the beach. So the leaflets were the warning before the fine - the 'good cop, bad cop' scenario if you will
Jan 27th 2010, 9:54 am
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Jan 27th 2010, 10:01 am
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Parallel dimensions yet again for me. I was on patrol at our local beach for the duration of Australia day - from 8am until 6pm.
There's a small local bylaw that prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the public carpark next to the surf club building which was introduced some time ago because some local kids were coming to the car park and getting drunk. Anyway, quite a few back packer style combis backed up to the grass at the edge of the car park. Tents went up, radios came out (JJJ hottest 100), eskies opened, beer being consumed. Everyone's happy, no-one's causing anyone any grief.
About midday the police show up, doing the rounds. They can clearly see the young folks sipping their beer, they can also clearly see that it's all very good natured and nobody's being a wanker. I have a chat to those coppers right next to two surfers sipping a TED each. We talk about the recent drownings in NSW. Then they get in their police car and off they go.
I was down at the beach this morning. Everyone had gone. There were a couple of empty beer bottles left in the dunes, but that was it. Maybe it's different out in the sticks, but I had terrific day at the beach and so did everyone else I saw.
If it sucked like it seems to where some of you live. I'd move.
There's a small local bylaw that prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the public carpark next to the surf club building which was introduced some time ago because some local kids were coming to the car park and getting drunk. Anyway, quite a few back packer style combis backed up to the grass at the edge of the car park. Tents went up, radios came out (JJJ hottest 100), eskies opened, beer being consumed. Everyone's happy, no-one's causing anyone any grief.
About midday the police show up, doing the rounds. They can clearly see the young folks sipping their beer, they can also clearly see that it's all very good natured and nobody's being a wanker. I have a chat to those coppers right next to two surfers sipping a TED each. We talk about the recent drownings in NSW. Then they get in their police car and off they go.
I was down at the beach this morning. Everyone had gone. There were a couple of empty beer bottles left in the dunes, but that was it. Maybe it's different out in the sticks, but I had terrific day at the beach and so did everyone else I saw.
If it sucked like it seems to where some of you live. I'd move.
Jan 27th 2010, 10:11 am
#54
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Parallel dimensions yet again for me. I was on patrol at our local beach for the duration of Australia day - from 8am until 6pm.
There's a small local bylaw that prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the public carpark next to the surf club building which was introduced some time ago because some local kids were coming to the car park and getting drunk. Anyway, quite a few back packer style combis backed up to the grass at the edge of the car park. Tents went up, radios came out (JJJ hottest 100), eskies opened, beer being consumed. Everyone's happy, no-one's causing anyone any grief.
About midday the police show up, doing the rounds. They can clearly see the young folks sipping their beer, they can also clearly see that it's all very good natured and nobody's being a wanker. I have a chat to those coppers right next to two surfers sipping a TED each. We talk about the recent drownings in NSW. Then they get in their police car and off they go.
I was down at the beach this morning. Everyone had gone. There were a couple of empty beer bottles left in the dunes, but that was it. Maybe it's different out in the sticks, but I had terrific day at the beach and so did everyone else I saw.
If it sucked like it seems to where some of you live. I'd move.
There's a small local bylaw that prohibits the consumption of alcohol in the public carpark next to the surf club building which was introduced some time ago because some local kids were coming to the car park and getting drunk. Anyway, quite a few back packer style combis backed up to the grass at the edge of the car park. Tents went up, radios came out (JJJ hottest 100), eskies opened, beer being consumed. Everyone's happy, no-one's causing anyone any grief.
About midday the police show up, doing the rounds. They can clearly see the young folks sipping their beer, they can also clearly see that it's all very good natured and nobody's being a wanker. I have a chat to those coppers right next to two surfers sipping a TED each. We talk about the recent drownings in NSW. Then they get in their police car and off they go.
I was down at the beach this morning. Everyone had gone. There were a couple of empty beer bottles left in the dunes, but that was it. Maybe it's different out in the sticks, but I had terrific day at the beach and so did everyone else I saw.
If it sucked like it seems to where some of you live. I'd move.
http://www.olgr.qld.gov.au/community...ic/index.shtml
"The Liquor Act 1992 bans the drinking of alcohol in a public place. This includes roads, footpaths, parks and beaches but does not include public places where alcohol is consumed at the consent of the owner, such as a BYO restaurant or places covered by a liquor licence or permit."
Jan 27th 2010, 10:48 am
#55
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Actually, the police volunteers explained that NSW does not have that same law but as we were on the Qld side of the border (right next to Tweed) that drinking in public places is prohibited.
http://www.olgr.qld.gov.au/community...ic/index.shtml
"The Liquor Act 1992 bans the drinking of alcohol in a public place. This includes roads, footpaths, parks and beaches but does not include public places where alcohol is consumed at the consent of the owner, such as a BYO restaurant or places covered by a liquor licence or permit."
http://www.olgr.qld.gov.au/community...ic/index.shtml
"The Liquor Act 1992 bans the drinking of alcohol in a public place. This includes roads, footpaths, parks and beaches but does not include public places where alcohol is consumed at the consent of the owner, such as a BYO restaurant or places covered by a liquor licence or permit."
Jan 27th 2010, 10:57 am
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Sounds like very sensible and community minded policing.
Jan 27th 2010, 11:04 am
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Wow, the police down there sound much more reasonable. They're not in Qld. Or maybe that's a rural thing? Either way, that's much more my cup of tea, using their discretion and common sense about a situation instead of alienating all and sundry Sounds like very sensible and community minded policing.
Sounds like very sensible and community minded policing.
Jan 27th 2010, 12:41 pm
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Probably. I know, because I read BE.
Seriously, apart from a Birth Certificate, don't think I've ever really filled in a form in recent years, or not been allowed to do something. Certainly never had to apply for any permit or license. VicRoads - last time I was down was 3 years or so ago....I like that the government protects me from *****wits so I don't mind a bit of it.
Seriously, apart from a Birth Certificate, don't think I've ever really filled in a form in recent years, or not been allowed to do something. Certainly never had to apply for any permit or license. VicRoads - last time I was down was 3 years or so ago....I like that the government protects me from *****wits so I don't mind a bit of it.
Jan 27th 2010, 12:45 pm
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Re: Oz-Is it a nanny state?
Just a thought - maybe they make some people fill out forms ad nauseum etc for permits etc to ensure they are literate by the end of it? 
Jan 31st 2010, 12:26 am
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