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Amazulu May 31st 2011 10:27 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by saintstu (Post 9402118)
Why are so many people on this forum so gloomy about things?

The million dollar question and a recurring theme on BE. Although this website is about emigrating to and living in Australia, it is generally anti-Australian - hence threads like this. Also, Poms, who make up the majority on here, are, overall, a pessimistic nation.

Reaver May 31st 2011 10:41 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9402248)
The million dollar question and a recurring them on BE. Although this website is about emigrating to and living in Australia, it is generally anti-Australian - hence threads like this. Also, Poms, who make up the majority in here, are, overall, a pessimistic nation.

Unfortunately its not just Aus, its anywhere and everywhere. You only have to look at the Big 4, and there are people complaining about how bad it is in the country they have immigrated to (and yet they continue to keep living there) all the while telling others how they would be better off staying in the UK. A country those already chose to leave. I dont think any of us is naive enough to assume the grass is greener, but if we are here on these forums then we have our reasons for wanting to leave.

To quote my learned friend above "Same shit different bucket.." Sometimes a different bucket, a change in scenery, regardless of how good or bad things may be, is all you need to give youself a more positive outlook on life.

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Amazulu May 31st 2011 10:45 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Reaver (Post 9402268)
Unfortunately its not just Aus, its anywhere and everywhere. You only have to look at the Big 4, and there are people complaining about how bad it is in the country they have immigrated to (and yet they continue to keep living there) all the while telling others how they would be better off staying in the UK.

Well said and this is what a lot of BE is unfortunately, and I will never understand it but there it is.

Amazulu May 31st 2011 10:49 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by quoll (Post 9402206)
Dunno, how many policemen have been shot in the head in Manchester, compared with the Gold Coast?

Don't make this terrible case a UK v Australia thing. This kind of incident is very rare in both countries and is not the norm.

HelenTD May 31st 2011 10:49 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by saintstu (Post 9402118)
What?!

I've been here for exactly 6 months today and work is plentiful, I'm earning more money than I ever did in the UK and everyone I meet is far more positive about things than back home.

The reason for the recent dip is unprecedented natural disasters.

The only problems I have is that it's finally started raining here and the football season is over!

Why are so many people on this forum so gloomy about things?


Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9402248)
The million dollar question and a recurring them on BE. Although this website is about emigrating to and living in Australia, it is generally anti-Australian - hence threads like this. Also, Poms, who make up the majority in here, are, overall, a pessimistic nation.

A lot depends on how well people are doing: you two are individuals who have stated that you are earning large amounts of money and live very comfortably, so there is every reason for you to be very happy with your lot in Australia, both, as it happens, in Perth. Others are not in the same position, so their outlook and experiences are very different and they are entitled to express their views. Neither of you have lived here for long and I doubt that you have experienced a downturn in the economy, Australian-style.

Amazulu May 31st 2011 10:51 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9402289)
A lot depends on how well people are doing: you two are individuals who have stated that you are earning large amounts of money and live very comfortably, so there is every reason for you to be very happy with your lot in Australia, both, as it happens, in Perth. Others are not in the same position, so their outlook and experiences are very different and they are entitled to express their views. Neither of you have lived here for long and I doubt that you have experienced a downturn in the economy, Australian-style.

If you are unhappy with your situation do something about it - it ain't rocket science

bcworld May 31st 2011 10:54 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Reaver (Post 9402268)
Unfortunately its not just Aus, its anywhere and everywhere. You only have to look at the Big 4, and there are people complaining about how bad it is in the country they have immigrated to (and yet they continue to keep living there) all the while telling others how they would be better off staying in the UK.

It's more of an expat thing, than a British expat thing. I knew loads of Aussies in the UK for example who complained about everything (same kind of things people talk about on here;the COL, the weather, the anti-persperant, the broccoli!), but in the end tried to find ways to stay in the country longer.

HelenTD May 31st 2011 11:01 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9402295)
If you are unhappy with your situation do something about it - it ain't rocket science

You've assumed that I was writing about myself, but I was referring to a huge segment of the population that are not as fortunate as you. Do you ever make any effort to understand the society and community you live in, or are you just too busy making money and spending it?

Amazulu May 31st 2011 11:23 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9402315)
You've assumed that I was writing about myself, but I was referring to a huge segment of the population that are not as fortunate as you. Do you ever make any effort to understand the society and community you live in, or are you just too busy making money and spending it?

My reply was not directed at you but to BE in general. I was referring to the fact (raised by another poster) about the generally negative tone of this website. If you are unhappy with aspects of your life, do something about it and don't bitch and moan on the internet. I'm not going to change my point of view on this, so trying to debate it is pointless - let's agree to disagree.

mulben May 31st 2011 11:38 pm

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by pomtastic (Post 9402045)
A recession is 2 quarters of negative growth, you know, what WA is experiencing right now.

http://www.afr.com/p/national/wa_eco...VZbHopdO7E1WzN

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226034941282

Or another view
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/finan...ing-state.html
Meanwhile, a new CommSec report reveals Western Australia to be the best performing state in the country.
The report comes alongside a new CommSec report which reveals Western Australia is experiencing the strongest economic growth out of all the states, due to a strong job market and renewed demand for resources.

HelenTD Jun 1st 2011 12:03 am

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9402338)
My reply was not directed at you but to BE in general. I was referring to the fact (raised by another poster) about the generally negative tone of this website. If you are unhappy with aspects of your life, do something about it and don't bitch and moan on the internet. I'm not going to change my point of view on this, so trying to debate it is pointless - let's agree to disagree.

Some people get a visa to migrate to Australia because of their particular skills, but that doesn't guarantee them a job, so sometimes they do something different, adapting to local conditions. Perhaps people are working on it - that takes time, effort and money to get qualifications and experience. Some just slot into doing a very similar job, just in a different country.

As for bitching and moaning on the internet, aren't you doing that here, complaining about other BE members?:rolleyes:

pomtastic Jun 1st 2011 12:10 am

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by mulben (Post 9402358)
Or another view
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/finan...ing-state.html
Meanwhile, a new CommSec report reveals Western Australia to be the best performing state in the country.
The report comes alongside a new CommSec report which reveals Western Australia is experiencing the strongest economic growth out of all the states, due to a strong job market and renewed demand for resources.

My view, from ground level, Perth.

WA has just benefitted from the QLD and NSW flooding. Businesses here in WA have seen their order books rise due to businesses in QLD being underwater - literally. Know a shed manufacturer who was on his knees before the flooding, his orders are now up and hired more people to handle the QLD orders, it's unprecidented as he tells me.

An economy can’t keep going on natural disasters and digging iron ore for the Chinese. From what I’m seeing, shops have permanent big discount sales on or shops closing down (Joondalup Gate has 25% of businesses empty or relocating and the rest are empty shops with few customers). Businesses that rely on housing are suffering, exporters are doing it tough, Australian wine exports are out of favour and fashion globally due to high cost. Most people are skint. Cost of living is getting worse, no extra cash for luxuries and that's even if you're on a family income of $100K plus.

Just look at the rise of websites like Perth Deals, etc. Stuff people don’t really need are crashing in price here, beauty treatments, hair stylists, paint ball, days out, hotels, restaurants, etc. This isn’t a sign of small businesses doing well in Perth, it’s a sign of desperation and a sign of the times. WA could get away with being rip off because people DID have loads of cash 5 years ago but no longer.

Amazulu Jun 1st 2011 12:12 am

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 9402401)
As for bitching and moaning on the internet, aren't you doing that here, complaining about other BE members?:rolleyes:

Not really. My posts on this thread have been pretty neutral and unemotional and I am just making observations on how I see a lot of what is written on BE. Like I said in a previous post, that's the way it is on here and the Brits are a pretty pessimistic nation.

quoll Jun 1st 2011 12:29 am

Re: Oz falling from high
 

Originally Posted by Deancm_MKII (Post 9402229)
Just wait until the carbon tax starts...

Yup, I didnt want to mention that because it might scare the newbies but, yes, it wont help in the slightest!!!!

Steve2009 Jun 1st 2011 12:44 am

Re: Oz falling from high
 
People who aren't pathologically optimistic must have a problem....
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hfjGSfuSQpA


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