Newspaper article on 457 visas
#17
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Re: Newspaper article on 457 visas
But surely it's not as simple as training up the Aussies? I mean, a lot of the skilled / highly-skilled jobs require not just training and qualifications (the potential result of TAFEs) but also years of experience which cannot be acquired by Aussies quick enough to fill the positions they have open. In the long-term, yes of course it's good to be training people up, and maybe in 5 or 10 years' time the situation will be different: people will have graduated from their TAFEs, gotten work (and life) experience and will be able to fill jobs a decade from now. But in the meantime they need overseas employees to fill the short-term gap in the workforce.
Or am I completely off the mark...?
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Re: Newspaper article on 457 visas
But surely it's not as simple as training up the Aussies? I mean, a lot of the skilled / highly-skilled jobs require not just training and qualifications (the potential result of TAFEs) but also years of experience which cannot be acquired by Aussies quick enough to fill the positions they have open. In the long-term, yes of course it's good to be training people up, and maybe in 5 or 10 years' time the situation will be different: people will have graduated from their TAFEs, gotten work (and life) experience and will be able to fill jobs a decade from now. But in the meantime they need overseas employees to fill the short-term gap in the workforce.
#19
Re: Newspaper article on 457 visas
It is interesting to see some of the comments from those from the mother country about use of cheap foreign labour for jobs with a shortage of locals to fill them. Cast your minds back to the late 1940's onwards to the present day - millions of people from former colonies were/are still being used to plug labour shortages caused by war losses and later to do the menial jobs which the locals didn't want to do. That's why parts of so many UK cities now resemble the Indian sub-continent or Caribbean. Since the expansion of the EU there are other parts which resemble Poland or Transylvania. (very much tongue in cheek)
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Re: Newspaper article on 457 visas
The scams are where there is already a pool of qualified locals. In IT there is a pool of recently redundant professionals and wages are dropping. Now is the time 457s should be stopped for a number of skills as they are not in shortage.
But surely it's not as simple as training up the Aussies? I mean, a lot of the skilled / highly-skilled jobs require not just training and qualifications (the potential result of TAFEs) but also years of experience which cannot be acquired by Aussies quick enough to fill the positions they have open. In the long-term, yes of course it's good to be training people up, and maybe in 5 or 10 years' time the situation will be different: people will have graduated from their TAFEs, gotten work (and life) experience and will be able to fill jobs a decade from now. But in the meantime they need overseas employees to fill the short-term gap in the workforce.
Or am I completely off the mark...?
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Or am I completely off the mark...?
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#22
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Re: Newspaper article on 457 visas
(removes tongue from cheek...)