The job market in Australia - a recruiters perspective
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As a starting point there is the Dental Technicians Association of Australia.
Also try this website www.ada.org.au
I have never recruited a dental technician so I'm unsure whether you would need to go through a registration process.
Sorry I can't be more helpful but I wouldn't want to give you an opinion that is not based on a knowledge of the market sector.
Here's a link to a postion in Victoria - http://www.dentaljobs.org.au/jobdetail.asp?jobid=40730
There is also an agency in Perth http://www.contactpointdental.com/
I hope this helps a little.
SSC
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Hi SSC
Thanks for the valuable info...
Have you any idea about the job market for Quantity Surveyor?
If the job market is real bad, I am thinking to get retrain with TAFE for cert III in aged care. I do not mind switching industry if necessary. But the only thing that bothers me is- will my family (3 of us in total) be able to survive on the salary of a newly started off aged care worker?
Thanks for the valuable info...
Have you any idea about the job market for Quantity Surveyor?
If the job market is real bad, I am thinking to get retrain with TAFE for cert III in aged care. I do not mind switching industry if necessary. But the only thing that bothers me is- will my family (3 of us in total) be able to survive on the salary of a newly started off aged care worker?
put jsearch au in google and it brings up an Australian government website with 1000s of jobs listed
Search4jobs is a good search engine for areas from Rockhampton down to the tip of Northern NSW - it's the job search listing for jobs advertised in the APN papers. APN publishes local papers (but not in the Brisbane area where it is Quest).
I'd also look at CareerOne - watch out for duplicate advertisements on SEEK.
If you're thinking of Aged or Disabled Care you will need to get a federal police clearance certificate, do a first aid course with CPR - this can be done at the Red Cross or St John's Ambulance. Many care organisations will let you work for them whilst you study for the Cert III. They may require you to go through a manual handling course - the bigger organisations run their own in-house courses.
Do you want to do residential aged care or care in the home? Care positions tend to be offered as casual or permanent part-time offering between 20-76 hours per fortnight.
Once you have a Cert III and some Australian work experience you can apply for AIN postions (Assistant in Nursing). You can work for Qld health. Here in Brisbane Crewe Sharpe have a lot of work for AINs and you get an agency rate. They have a lot of preferred supplier contracts. Also Australian Recruiting and CinicalOne. There are others. Sign on with all of them to ensure you get enough casual shifts.
If you've done aged care most good RTOs (registered training organisations) will offer RPL (recognition of prior learning). We work with TAFE and when we're recommending upskilling we always put people through TAFE.
Hope this helps.
SSC
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What a useful post. Thanks SSC.
Would you have any recommendations for recruiters/agencies dealing with engineering recruitment in SE QLD?
Would you have any recommendations for recruiters/agencies dealing with engineering recruitment in SE QLD?
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Fantastic post, found it very useful.
We are hoping to make the move in 2 yrs to Queensland. My partner is a Gas Fitter and all we have heard from other Gas Fitters is that there are no jobs available to people in this trade although it is on the list. Could you advise us of any area you may no of that would require Gas Fitters.
Many thanks
Nicola
We are hoping to make the move in 2 yrs to Queensland. My partner is a Gas Fitter and all we have heard from other Gas Fitters is that there are no jobs available to people in this trade although it is on the list. Could you advise us of any area you may no of that would require Gas Fitters.
Many thanks
Nicola
We've avoided recruiting in trades for the last twelve months and put these jobs out to a specialist recruitment company.
It is getting harder to get that first step onto the ladder. As per one of my previous posts put jsearch au into Google and it'll bring up an Australian job search website with legitimate vacancies - not made up ones put on by recruitment companies who are trying to source candidates in order to "reverse market them" to companies. They never tell you that they are doing this - so be wary.
Get your licence. If you pm me I can give you some details of the agency we use. but they won't be able to help you until you've obtained your licence.
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lots of good information.
We are move to Melbourne lin September, my wife is a senior nurse and will have a job lined before we arrive, I on the other hand have no recognised qualifications so may look at retraining any advise would be welcome (i don't really do manual labour)
thanks
We are move to Melbourne lin September, my wife is a senior nurse and will have a job lined before we arrive, I on the other hand have no recognised qualifications so may look at retraining any advise would be welcome (i don't really do manual labour)
thanks
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lots of good information.
We are move to Melbourne lin September, my wife is a senior nurse and will have a job lined before we arrive, I on the other hand have no recognised qualifications so may look at retraining any advise would be welcome (i don't really do manual labour)
thanks
We are move to Melbourne lin September, my wife is a senior nurse and will have a job lined before we arrive, I on the other hand have no recognised qualifications so may look at retraining any advise would be welcome (i don't really do manual labour)
thanks
Whilst they've been taken off the CSL there is a shortage of motor mechanics. I'm suprised that they took mechanics off the list. It's a long training process though - it's about 2 years at TAFE.
What do you do at the moment and what do you enjoy doing?
The economic downturn is not going to be forever - I know it may sound crazy but I'd consider studying for a trade as again it will take 2 years.
Bakers are in short supply. A franchise (whose name escapes me) is offering training programs. Even in a recession people need bread. There is a bakery here in Brisbane that is desperate for staff.
The health and social services sectors are in short supply. Careers in renewable energy such as solar energy will be a growth sector as is aged care.
I hope this helps - it's hard to give suggestions without knowing someone's interests/current skill levels.
PM me if you'd like any more information.
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to be honest i will do almost anything to earn some cash to support my family,
i currently work for a company who create electronic parts catalogues for the motor trade.
i like the idea of re-training as i left school 22 years ago (god i'm old) and had no idea of what i wanted to do, (and still don't).
Is it hard to get on to a TAFE course considering that i will be newly arrived in Aus and a mature student (40)
i currently work for a company who create electronic parts catalogues for the motor trade.
i like the idea of re-training as i left school 22 years ago (god i'm old) and had no idea of what i wanted to do, (and still don't).
Is it hard to get on to a TAFE course considering that i will be newly arrived in Aus and a mature student (40)
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to be honest i will do almost anything to earn some cash to support my family,
i currently work for a company who create electronic parts catalogues for the motor trade.
i like the idea of re-training as i left school 22 years ago (god i'm old) and had no idea of what i wanted to do, (and still don't).
Is it hard to get on to a TAFE course considering that i will be newly arrived in Aus and a mature student (40)
i currently work for a company who create electronic parts catalogues for the motor trade.
i like the idea of re-training as i left school 22 years ago (god i'm old) and had no idea of what i wanted to do, (and still don't).
Is it hard to get on to a TAFE course considering that i will be newly arrived in Aus and a mature student (40)
As I mentioned getting skilled up in the renewable energy sector is a good long-term career option as is the aged care sector.
My dream is to buy a lottery ticket, win, retire and set up an animal sanctuary then I wouldn't have to worry about career options

Get a feel for the market when you arrive and take it from there.
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Thanks for your help, we have a PR so it looks like alot of option are open to me.
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Hi SSC,
Good post! Any idea about the IT job market in current scenario. I have seen a number of postings for IT professionals in Mycareer & Job seek. I have a PR. Pls. advise!
Good post! Any idea about the IT job market in current scenario. I have seen a number of postings for IT professionals in Mycareer & Job seek. I have a PR. Pls. advise!
Last edited by janrod; Apr 2nd 2009 at 12:59 am.
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Post of the Year ...
Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.

Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.
I work with an organisation that assists companies in Australia who are experiencing skills shortages. I am loathed to use the word recruitment because it seems no-one has a good word to say about recruiters.
Solutions we offer are upskilling (we work with TAFE), retention schemes, interstate and international recuriment.
Currently our focus is mainly health - however we do have clients in regional areas who are finding it hard to source skilled workers. There is also a shortage of individuals with experience in the power sector ie those with oil and gas experience.
I've noticed that more and more posts are appearing in forums from people concerned about the job market here.
We recruit a lot of nurses and we have begun to offer their partners job search assistance so that they remain in Australia rather than returning back to the UK/Ireland as they are trying to support themselves on one income.
About 18 months ago we refused to place individuals in construction, trades or IT in metropolitan areas on 457 visas unless they had a visa strategy to PR worked out and discussed with a MARA registered agent because most of us in the business world were aware that there would be a downturn in the job market and began planning for it - not only to support our candidates but also to ensure that we could retain the jobs of the people we employ within our organisation.
The job market is becoming more and more competitive. We have always prided ourselves on responding to all applications. However we recently advertised a job and we didn't expect a very big response. We received over 400 applications and a high volume of calls. We had to take the advertisement down after ten days because the applications kept on flooding through.
If you are not in health or engineering and have secure jobs in your own country I would delay your arrival in Australia unless you have sufficient funds to support yourself for three to six months OR if you don't mind obtaining Australian work experience and working in a job that pays between $20-$23 per hour.
As I am receiving so many requests from newly arrived migrants every day I thought I would pass on some tips that I've been giving out to them.
If you are coming to Brisbane avoid the Sunshine Coast or Gold Coast. The main industry is tourism and the payrates in these areas are lower. They are beautiful places to live and if you think about it if work was plentiful in these areas don't you think more people would live there rather than Brisbane?
The area that will be undergoing huge development is Ipswich. There is a regional development plan for south-east Queensland and Ipswich and the surrounding area is where all future affordable housing will be built and where all future industrial development will be located. There is a huge health park and education park being built at Springfield Lakes. There is also a lot of infastructure being built. If you are coming to Brisbane on a reccie check out this area and the potential for employment opportunities.
In Queensland when there are roadworks or construction going on where they need to close part of a road they don't have mobile traffic lights they have traffic controllers. It's not the most exciting of jobs but they are always looking for people. You need a licence and the penalty rates are good at weekends - but it can be very boring standing in the road with a lollipop saying stop or go. On the upside because you're working alongside construction sites/road works it's a good way of developing contacts and hearing where jobs are coming up.
Taxi drivers - again you'll need a licence. Called Yellow Cabs or Black and White - they are always looking for drivers.
Bus Drivers - they are expanding the service here in Brisbane
Warehousing in the food sector - IGA have distribution centres in Canning Vale in Perth and here in Brisbane. Often people don't want to work in Cold Storage.
Get an Aussie forklift licence
Use a good agency - for warehousing and manufacturing try Integrated at Springwood. Don't judge an agency by a name it depends on the people who work there and this agency always has jobs.
If there are any engineers out there who have oil and gas experience let me know and I'll put you in contact with a specialist agency.
Get your qualifications slotted into an Australian Qualifications Framework. You might be able to do this through RPL - our organisaton arranges this through TAFE. Go on a short TAFE course. It may sound silly but Australian employers like Australian work experience. If you have an Australian qualification it gives the impression of having Australian training so your resume will more likely get through the first selection round.
Don't be misled by advertisements on SEEK. There are often multiple advertisements for the same job being advertised by the employer and several other recruitment agencies. Remember often recruitment companies have to go out and find the jobs by cold calling.
Give serious consideration to South Australia. It's economy is not reliant on the mining sector like Queensland and WA plus they are offering a range of settlement services such as meet and greet, arranging short term accommodation, job search assistance and RPL of overseas qualifications.
If you are a metal tradesperson in Queensland think of doing something else for a while. A flood of candidates came back onto the market when some of the mines closed and a lot of the businesses were supplying the mining sector.
Also often the true unemployment figure is hidden here as it doesn't take into account casual workers who've had their hours reduced. Some workers at Brisbane docks have had more than a 50% reduction in their hours.
There have been two news articles out today both indicating higher levels of unemployment that previously thought
http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au...04/2532715.htm
More job losses in Queensland
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...02/2533026.htm
I would say it is still worth applying for your visa as you have up to five years to live in Australia as long as you validate your visa within the required time period. Don't worry about priority processing unless you are a health worker/engineer or are happy to work in a regional area.
Give consideration to regional areas. We have some carer vacancies in Central Queensland that we have been trying to fill for months. These communities have a lot to offer.
I know this post may contain news/information that people may not want to hear but I'm on the "front line" so to speak and I have tried to keep it as balanced as possible.
I hope that people find it useful and that I haven't put anyone coming to Australia - it's just that people need to focus on where the work is not where is the nicest place to live and come here with their eyes open and be prepared to do anything to get that Aussie work experience.
Solutions we offer are upskilling (we work with TAFE), retention schemes, interstate and international recuriment.
Currently our focus is mainly health - however we do have clients in regional areas who are finding it hard to source skilled workers. There is also a shortage of individuals with experience in the power sector ie those with oil and gas experience.
I've noticed that more and more posts are appearing in forums from people concerned about the job market here.
We recruit a lot of nurses and we have begun to offer their partners job search assistance so that they remain in Australia rather than returning back to the UK/Ireland as they are trying to support themselves on one income.
About 18 months ago we refused to place individuals in construction, trades or IT in metropolitan areas on 457 visas unless they had a visa strategy to PR worked out and discussed with a MARA registered agent because most of us in the business world were aware that there would be a downturn in the job market and began planning for it - not only to support our candidates but also to ensure that we could retain the jobs of the people we employ within our organisation.
The job market is becoming more and more competitive. We have always prided ourselves on responding to all applications. However we recently advertised a job and we didn't expect a very big response. We received over 400 applications and a high volume of calls. We had to take the advertisement down after ten days because the applications kept on flooding through.
If you are not in health or engineering and have secure jobs in your own country I would delay your arrival in Australia unless you have sufficient funds to support yourself for three to six months OR if you don't mind obtaining Australian work experience and working in a job that pays between $20-$23 per hour.
As I am receiving so many requests from newly arrived migrants every day I thought I would pass on some tips that I've been giving out to them.
If you are coming to Brisbane avoid the Sunshine Coast or Gold Coast. The main industry is tourism and the payrates in these areas are lower. They are beautiful places to live and if you think about it if work was plentiful in these areas don't you think more people would live there rather than Brisbane?
The area that will be undergoing huge development is Ipswich. There is a regional development plan for south-east Queensland and Ipswich and the surrounding area is where all future affordable housing will be built and where all future industrial development will be located. There is a huge health park and education park being built at Springfield Lakes. There is also a lot of infastructure being built. If you are coming to Brisbane on a reccie check out this area and the potential for employment opportunities.
In Queensland when there are roadworks or construction going on where they need to close part of a road they don't have mobile traffic lights they have traffic controllers. It's not the most exciting of jobs but they are always looking for people. You need a licence and the penalty rates are good at weekends - but it can be very boring standing in the road with a lollipop saying stop or go. On the upside because you're working alongside construction sites/road works it's a good way of developing contacts and hearing where jobs are coming up.
Taxi drivers - again you'll need a licence. Called Yellow Cabs or Black and White - they are always looking for drivers.
Bus Drivers - they are expanding the service here in Brisbane
Warehousing in the food sector - IGA have distribution centres in Canning Vale in Perth and here in Brisbane. Often people don't want to work in Cold Storage.
Get an Aussie forklift licence
Use a good agency - for warehousing and manufacturing try Integrated at Springwood. Don't judge an agency by a name it depends on the people who work there and this agency always has jobs.
If there are any engineers out there who have oil and gas experience let me know and I'll put you in contact with a specialist agency.
Get your qualifications slotted into an Australian Qualifications Framework. You might be able to do this through RPL - our organisaton arranges this through TAFE. Go on a short TAFE course. It may sound silly but Australian employers like Australian work experience. If you have an Australian qualification it gives the impression of having Australian training so your resume will more likely get through the first selection round.
Don't be misled by advertisements on SEEK. There are often multiple advertisements for the same job being advertised by the employer and several other recruitment agencies. Remember often recruitment companies have to go out and find the jobs by cold calling.
Give serious consideration to South Australia. It's economy is not reliant on the mining sector like Queensland and WA plus they are offering a range of settlement services such as meet and greet, arranging short term accommodation, job search assistance and RPL of overseas qualifications.
If you are a metal tradesperson in Queensland think of doing something else for a while. A flood of candidates came back onto the market when some of the mines closed and a lot of the businesses were supplying the mining sector.
Also often the true unemployment figure is hidden here as it doesn't take into account casual workers who've had their hours reduced. Some workers at Brisbane docks have had more than a 50% reduction in their hours.
There have been two news articles out today both indicating higher levels of unemployment that previously thought
http://www.radioaustralianews.net.au...04/2532715.htm
More job losses in Queensland
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...02/2533026.htm
I would say it is still worth applying for your visa as you have up to five years to live in Australia as long as you validate your visa within the required time period. Don't worry about priority processing unless you are a health worker/engineer or are happy to work in a regional area.
Give consideration to regional areas. We have some carer vacancies in Central Queensland that we have been trying to fill for months. These communities have a lot to offer.
I know this post may contain news/information that people may not want to hear but I'm on the "front line" so to speak and I have tried to keep it as balanced as possible.
I hope that people find it useful and that I haven't put anyone coming to Australia - it's just that people need to focus on where the work is not where is the nicest place to live and come here with their eyes open and be prepared to do anything to get that Aussie work experience.
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Post of the Year ...
Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.

Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.
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Thanks for the very informative post.
Despite most advice....we ARE actually moving to the Gold Coast.....SOMEONE has to do it !
Will feed back how our life settles and the geenral opportunities.
nix
Despite most advice....we ARE actually moving to the Gold Coast.....SOMEONE has to do it !
Will feed back how our life settles and the geenral opportunities.
nix
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You should be fine. When we were candidate short we found a small ad in the local newspaper produced better candidates rather than people who go through SEEK and just go click and apply. It's a different market now - but the candidates who are more mature tend to look through newspaper ads
The lead post and threads have been most informative Thank you. We go on a reccee in a fortnights time to validate my husbands spouse visa. He is a qualified Civil Engineer - construction, bulk earthworks, roadworks, infra structures etc etc, had years of experience on large contracts in Africa and now works in the UK. At least you thread as made us realise that this is not the time to go job hunting, even if he is on the skills wanted list..its just not happening.
Honest advice is always appreciated, thanks again
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Post of the Year ...
Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.

Congratulations.
Informative, honest & brutal in it's assessment but that's reality.
Keep up the good work. It's posters like you that make the place worthwhile to would be migrants when knobheads like me generally add nothing but the 'odd' giggle.
Thats a point we wondered on, about the roadworks, the floods must have done tremendous damage to the roads and infra structure,yet, I dont see any jobs advertised for qualified Civil engineers, specialising in roadworks and bulk earthworks.
I know this for a fact, my husband has been looking for this specific position on the internet, as we go to australia in a fortnights time on a reccee ( he has a spouse visa).
That in itself is a good indication of the present job market. Thanks again for all the sound advice you gave.



