issed off looking for work
Jun 3rd 2009 | 1:23 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Ok fair enough I think Melbourne has a lot of infrastructure spending going on at the moment. If the original poster has some water experience it could pay to go to Melbourne as they're about to announce the winner in the bid to build the desal plant, I believe it's Thiess against Veolia water competing for the engineer.
Jun 3rd 2009 | 1:54 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
I suppose I should point out the reason I believe I have been out of work for the four months now. I arrived in Perth eight month ago when there was plenty of jobs. Most of them for mining, oil and gas, very few for the manufacturing industry. Worked for the four months on my first mining project. They got rid of the first batch, twenty engineers and drafies. So I am one of the last in first out with the least experience. Suppose the lucky thing is I have a PR not here on a 457 visa.
We have talked about going over east. I never thought it would come to this. Again you are up against people who are already over there. And I,m a new arrival. As they have said I need to hang in there.
We have talked about going over east. I never thought it would come to this. Again you are up against people who are already over there. And I,m a new arrival. As they have said I need to hang in there.
Jun 3rd 2009 | 2:55 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
I suppose I should point out the reason I believe I have been out of work for the four months now. I arrived in Perth eight month ago when there was plenty of jobs. Most of them for mining, oil and gas, very few for the manufacturing industry. Worked for the four months on my first mining project. They got rid of the first batch, twenty engineers and drafies. So I am one of the last in first out with the least experience. Suppose the lucky thing is I have a PR not here on a 457 visa.
We have talked about going over east. I never thought it would come to this. Again you are up against people who are already over there. And I,m a new arrival. As they have said I need to hang in there.
We have talked about going over east. I never thought it would come to this. Again you are up against people who are already over there. And I,m a new arrival. As they have said I need to hang in there.
When the economy picks up, the oil, gas and mining will pick up also. The question is, how long is that going to take? And, can you survive until that happens?
Jun 4th 2009 | 4:59 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
I'm fed up looking for work. I have never been in this situation before. Anyone feel the same. Is there a light at the end of the tunnel. Is this what job hunting is like in Australia if you come from outside OZ, the place to start a new better life? There are other thread I'm sure, I reckon.
Yep, having a moan now, being out of work now four months, OK, only four months.
Yep, having a moan now, being out of work now four months, OK, only four months.
I'll let you know if I hear any more.
Jun 4th 2009 | 11:06 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Its a case of who you know...Hubby was made redundent, had a phone call from a guy he turned down a job 10 months ago saying these are looking for a 1st class Machinist rang them and got a job all within 3 days
Start networking thats all he said
Mind you the jobs still a long way away from Project Manager for JET fusion reactor...in the uk
Start networking thats all he said
Mind you the jobs still a long way away from Project Manager for JET fusion reactor...in the uk
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Jun 5th 2009 | 2:35 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Drafties are a product of the world boom. So much building was going on for such a long time that companies needed to take on people just to get drawings out. Look at job ads in many cases people specifiically say they want a grad engineer or engineering specialist. People don't need large amounts of staff to run a drawing department.
Now that things have slowed down back to a normal place a lot less people will be needed worldwide to click a mouse.
Engineers will do a lot of a the drawings ie canada and not as much in Australia yet a lot of work will be taken off shore. Has been some very successful offshore drafting to china with a few Perth based consulting companies including Rio.
Like I said earlier though if you're interested in a move to Sydney and soon Melbourne an opportunity may arise because that is where all the government infrastructure spending is going but at the same time exports in WA are still keeping the economy above recession.
But it comes down to personal preferrences.
Now that things have slowed down back to a normal place a lot less people will be needed worldwide to click a mouse.
Engineers will do a lot of a the drawings ie canada and not as much in Australia yet a lot of work will be taken off shore. Has been some very successful offshore drafting to china with a few Perth based consulting companies including Rio.
Like I said earlier though if you're interested in a move to Sydney and soon Melbourne an opportunity may arise because that is where all the government infrastructure spending is going but at the same time exports in WA are still keeping the economy above recession.
But it comes down to personal preferrences.
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Jun 10th 2009 | 3:35 am
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Re: issed off looking for work
I can very much sympathise with all IT people without a job at the moment - particularly in Perth where we've settled. I've been in that boat now for 7 weeks and it's getting more and more difficult to stay positive and not panic.
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
Jun 10th 2009 | 3:51 am
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Re: issed off looking for work
I can very much sympathise with all IT people without a job at the moment - particularly in Perth where we've settled. I've been in that boat now for 7 weeks and it's getting more and more difficult to stay positive and not panic.
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
Jun 10th 2009 | 3:57 am
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Re: issed off looking for work
I can very much sympathise with all IT people without a job at the moment - particularly in Perth where we've settled. I've been in that boat now for 7 weeks and it's getting more and more difficult to stay positive and not panic.
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
My pet peeve is the behaviour of most (though not all) of the recruitment agents who seem to be eager and excited about your CV at first, only to then never keep you in the loop about opportunities they've put you forward for unless you continually pester them by phone. And then there's the ones that don't read your CV when you apply through Seek et al - unless you then phone them to point out that your CV actually IS a good match for the job description. Don't even get me started on positions that look like a perfect match for my skillset - but which turn out to be CV harvesting ads.
I have 11 years in the industry overall, with core skills in Java AND C/C++ - which can be an advantage OR a disadvantage depending on the agent reading my CV. That means I'm more likely to get interest from employers/agents who are impressed by exposure to lots of technologies and an ever growing skillset as opposed to those that just want a pure Java or a pure C++ person and see me as a "mixed bag" (as one agent put it).
In my 7 weeks, I have evolved a daily process of
1) Checking Seek for IT positions in both "Analyst/Programmer" and "Engineer: Software" subcategories
2) Telephoning the agency dealing with the job to convey my suitability
3) Making some targeted updates to my CV for the role(s) in question (if need be)
4) Sending the agent my CV
5) Calling the agent back again to make sure they read it
I'm not saying this is going to get us all jobs, but don't believe that using the apply now button on Seek will mean you'll get a response.
In 7 weeks, I've had one job interview and one phone interview. I'm still waiting to hear back for the latter, but found out today I was not successful for the former. The company in question told me they have gone for a "cheaper resource" with less experience than myself.
'Frustrating' is an understatement - and as someone else said - you really can't imagine what it feels like until you're going through it yourself.
Good luck to all the jobless.
Regards,
Dazster
Jun 10th 2009 | 7:09 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Well, I'm just about to hopefully start a part time job courier in the evening and weekend and my poor wife cleaning homes just to make ends meet.
Over four months of being out of work with no income is too long. Yes, should of done it from the start.
Never thought both of us would have to stoop, a lower class of work, what was suppose to be a better life in OZ and winter is drawing in.
Still no regrets, yet?
Good luck to the jobless. Get out there and do anything just to earn that crust.
Paul & June
Over four months of being out of work with no income is too long. Yes, should of done it from the start.
Never thought both of us would have to stoop, a lower class of work, what was suppose to be a better life in OZ and winter is drawing in.
Still no regrets, yet?
Good luck to the jobless. Get out there and do anything just to earn that crust.
Paul & June
Jun 10th 2009 | 8:25 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Well, I'm just about to hopefully start a part time job courier in the evening and weekend and my poor wife cleaning homes just to make ends meet.
Over four months of being out of work with no income is too long. Yes, should of done it from the start.
Never thought both of us would have to stoop, a lower class of work, what was suppose to be a better life in OZ and winter is drawing in.
Still no regrets, yet?
Good luck to the jobless. Get out there and do anything just to earn that crust.
Paul & June
Over four months of being out of work with no income is too long. Yes, should of done it from the start.
Never thought both of us would have to stoop, a lower class of work, what was suppose to be a better life in OZ and winter is drawing in.
Still no regrets, yet?
Good luck to the jobless. Get out there and do anything just to earn that crust.
Paul & June
Jun 10th 2009 | 9:02 pm
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Re: issed off looking for work
Its probably your attitude that has you in the position you are in.
To say you are 'stooping to a lower class of work' says it all really.
One has to do what one has to do to survive. End of.
To say you are 'stooping to a lower class of work' says it all really.
One has to do what one has to do to survive. End of.
